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04-04-2016, 08:16 PM #16
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(04-04-2016, 03:56 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Great post. hi5.gif

I think I may have found an answer to that nagging US question...

According to zerohedge.com

Finally, for those curious why not a single prominent US name features in the list above, the reason may be found within the snapshot of the non-profit ICIJ's "funding supporters":

Actually, it's simpler than that: out of the 14,086 companies Mossack Fonseca had incorporated it knew the identities of the real owners of just 204 of them...

Americans are probably better at covering their tracks, or used a different law firm to do all their dirty stuff.
04-04-2016, 08:43 PM #17
US nli Incognito Anonymous
 
(04-04-2016, 06:37 PM)Octo Wrote:  People are not as upset with the individuals as it's our biggest bank that's been assisting our richest folks in setting up these offshore "businesses".


Nordea bank investigated over tax haven scandal

One of the biggest banks in Scandinavia has been accused of helping wealthy customers to dodge taxes and is now set to be investigated by Sweden's financial watchdog.

http://www.thelocal.se/20160404/swedens-...tax-tangle

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Is it the banks' responsibility?
04-04-2016, 09:30 PM #18
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(04-04-2016, 08:16 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(04-04-2016, 03:56 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Great post. hi5.gif

I think I may have found an answer to that nagging US question...

According to zerohedge.com

Finally, for those curious why not a single prominent US name features in the list above, the reason may be found within the snapshot of the non-profit ICIJ's "funding supporters":

Actually, it's simpler than that: out of the 14,086 companies Mossack Fonseca had incorporated it knew the identities of the real owners of just 204 of them...

Americans are probably better at covering their tracks, or used a different law firm to do all their dirty stuff.

That's a very good point about the real owners being out of sight.

(04-04-2016, 08:43 PM)US nli Wrote:  
(04-04-2016, 06:37 PM)Octo Wrote:  People are not as upset with the individuals as it's our biggest bank that's been assisting our richest folks in setting up these offshore "businesses".


Nordea bank investigated over tax haven scandal

One of the biggest banks in Scandinavia has been accused of helping wealthy customers to dodge taxes and is now set to be investigated by Sweden's financial watchdog.

http://www.thelocal.se/20160404/swedens-...tax-tangle

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Is it the banks' responsibility?

It's just that banks are supposed to adhere to the banking laws and regulations of the countries they operate in.
The Finnish police are investigating this issue, and take a pretty hard stance against this type of thing.
It's always feasible for the state to pronounce individuals and/or, institutions, guilty for aiding and abetting in a crime even if they are not the principal offender.

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04-04-2016, 09:34 PM #19
Octo Mother Superior
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A huge data leak of confidential documents from a Panamanian law firm has revealed widespread tax avoidance by influential individuals keen on hiding their wealth. Yle reports that the leak has also implicated a large number of Finns - and Nordea Bank, the leading Nordic lender, which also has operations in Finland.

Hundreds of Finns are included in the list, which ranges from entrepreneurs, investors and athletes to convicted felons. Some of their names are to be revealed by Yle TV1's investigative programme MOT next Monday, 11 April. While offshore arrangements are not necessarily illegal, failure to report foreign holdings to tax authorities is.


http://yle.fi/uutiset/finnish_pols_banke...ns/8787162

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04-04-2016, 09:51 PM #20
US nli Incognito Anonymous
 
(04-04-2016, 09:30 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(04-04-2016, 08:16 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(04-04-2016, 03:56 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Great post. hi5.gif

I think I may have found an answer to that nagging US question...

According to zerohedge.com

Finally, for those curious why not a single prominent US name features in the list above, the reason may be found within the snapshot of the non-profit ICIJ's "funding supporters":

Actually, it's simpler than that: out of the 14,086 companies Mossack Fonseca had incorporated it knew the identities of the real owners of just 204 of them...

Americans are probably better at covering their tracks, or used a different law firm to do all their dirty stuff.

That's a very good point about the real owners being out of sight.

(04-04-2016, 08:43 PM)US nli Wrote:  
(04-04-2016, 06:37 PM)Octo Wrote:  People are not as upset with the individuals as it's our biggest bank that's been assisting our richest folks in setting up these offshore "businesses".


Nordea bank investigated over tax haven scandal

One of the biggest banks in Scandinavia has been accused of helping wealthy customers to dodge taxes and is now set to be investigated by Sweden's financial watchdog.

http://www.thelocal.se/20160404/swedens-...tax-tangle

13.gif

Is it the banks' responsibility?

It's just that banks are supposed to adhere to the banking laws and regulations of the countries they operate in.
The Finnish police are investigating this issue, and take a pretty hard stance against this type of thing.
It's always feasible for the state to pronounce individuals and/or, institutions, guilty for aiding and abetting in a crime even if they are not the principal offender.

How are bank employees/owners suppose to ascettain if new clients will or not declare their holdings? Again, this is not their responsibility and if the banks were forced to disclose clients' holdings, that to me is a breach of confidentiality.
04-04-2016, 10:04 PM #21
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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This is going to have to play out for a while to see how deep it gets.
I expect some tremendous upheaval as this 11+ million pages of documents are sifted through.

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04-04-2016, 11:24 PM #22
Accidental Stoner Member
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Hmmmyeah, who liveth, seeth.

Seems some people are above the law. 13.gif
04-05-2016, 06:15 AM #23
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-04-2016, 11:24 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Hmmmyeah, who liveth, seeth.

Seems some people are above the law. 13.gif

No, just good at circumventing it.
04-05-2016, 06:51 AM #24
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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yup.gif As a profession.

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04-05-2016, 07:40 AM #25
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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I used the same link that AK used " The Guardian " and
posted the link on every post that showed up on my facebook
page , that mentioned Sports .

One was a post about the Dodgers ( a Baseball team )

so I posted a link in reply

The Poster , is a Guy who grew up with me

His Wife replied : " Would you stop posting " WEIRD shït " on
my Husbands Page ? " ( Caps mine )

Weird shït is a post referring to a bunch of sweaty men playing with a ball
as if that were of importance .

LOL until my Kidney Cramped up

But that's America
That's all they main population cares about , Entertainment

Just Like the Romans , as the Barbarians Sacked, Looted , and Burned it to the
Ground

Oh Gude Gawd I love this World

I can well understand why Aliens love to Visit here and watch us
Like the Monkey Pen at the Zoo .

most of the current UFO's being sighted are actually Tour Ships
for Tourist

think about it

aren't we at that same stage right now
Trying to perfect Rockets to take tourist up into space
for a Healthy sum of Money ?

HA HA haaaaaaaaa

just came to mind is all

but I bet it's truer than not
L-O-ğkking-L
04-05-2016, 07:08 PM #26
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,804 Threads:1,471 Joined:Feb 2011
Iceland PM to step down after Panama Papers scandal


İmage
Icelands Prime Minister Sigmundur David Gunnlaugsson attends a session of parliament in Reykjavik, Iceland on April 4, 2016. Iceland's prime minister faced calls to resign after leaked 'Panama Papers' tax documents showed he and his wife used an offshore firm to allegedly hide million-dollar investments.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/05/pressure-...andal.html
04-06-2016, 07:10 AM #27
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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China is censoring the whole deal. The presidents brother was nailed in this, but not before millions found out and were posting it on social media.

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04-06-2016, 08:42 AM #28
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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got another funny joke

any idea where this leak came from ?

who did it and why ?

HULLO ! anybody on the same wave with me ?

I'' give you the Joke now .

This is just the beginning

Tons and Millions of bits of Data have already been hacked
and downloaded .

after those have been reviewed

they'll surface

funny joke eh ?

watch
also
watch Oil go up

watch
exposure to follow

This leak could have come way before now , but there was
data to be gleaned still from other sources

that data has been gleaned now and it was safe to leak this

swear to Gawd , more will follow

This would not have been released before the hacks were all done .
otherwise the threat of folks freaking out and calling in
Penetration testers to check for weak back doors

exploitable area's in the system to be hacked would have been secured

so , the leak was held up until other systems were successfully hacked
and the data swiped .

I expect that Data to be leaked next .
04-07-2016, 02:38 AM #29
Accidental Stoner Member
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(04-05-2016, 07:08 PM)Octo Wrote:  Iceland PM to step down after Panama Papers scandal


İmage
Icelands Prime Minister Sigmundur David Gunnlaugsson attends a session of parliament in Reykjavik, Iceland on April 4, 2016. Iceland's prime minister faced calls to resign after leaked 'Panama Papers' tax documents showed he and his wife used an offshore firm to allegedly hide million-dollar investments.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/05/pressure-...andal.html

Well...no offense to anybody,
personally, I feel good whenever I see all and any folk taking pride
in their homeland and such, but

this goes to show a smaller nation will always be the healthier society.

İmage

Politics need to move towards self-sufficiency for subunits.
Everything else is friggin' bogus.
04-28-2016, 02:43 PM #30
Kreeper Griobhtha
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There is a new, and larger, dump coming on May 9.


Quote:On Wednesday the ICIJ said in an email that on May 9 it would "publish what will likely be the largest-ever release of information about secret offshore companies and the people behind them, based on data from the Panama Papers investigation.

"The searchable database will include information about more than 200,000 companies, trusts, foundations, and funds incorporated in 21 tax havens, from Hong Kong to Nevada in the United States."

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor



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