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The Real Holocaust..?
05-18-2015, 04:58 AM #31
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Hm.

Here is another, rather essential part of the puzzle:





Makes a whole lot of sense.
05-19-2015, 04:51 PM #32
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I must say it is very, very interesting to confront one's
own life-long forced indoctrination and brainwashing.

The more I read the forbidden texts available, the more
it seems the picture clears.

Here is one very illuminating essay. It is a rather lengthy
read, but well worth the effort for those interested:

https://archive.org/stream/UnderTwoFlags...0/mode/2up

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05-19-2015, 05:29 PM #33
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i dont understand what threads about holocaust are implying..

ive seen so many.. other forums and such.
ppl keep trying to make some kinda point with it all but i never am sure what it is they are trying to say y making them.

what? that the holocaust didnt happen or that only so many died.. or.. something..

or even hitler was 'actually' a good guy?

exactly what is supposed to come out of these kind of threads..?

that tptb of the time lied about stuff?
lol well, yeah no kidding.

..and..? dunno.gif

i dont get it.

Just Plain Nuts.
05-19-2015, 06:21 PM #34
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Well, you seem to have freed your mind earlier in life than me, Coolchick.

Very good.

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Maybe I post this thread to watch myself express my own so called political
awakening. Or in an effort to help myself understand the greater world
around me. Since WWII, the sad fate of Germany and the holohoax still
seem to be the very hub around which pretty much all of the contemporary
tendencies revolve.
05-19-2015, 06:38 PM #35
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lol
well, i do my best to do just that.

im not criticizing. i am just wondering what it is that you (or anyone who posts these kind of threads) is trying to get across..

i guess i am saying we cant change what happened then.. in my own opinion 'they' are still operating in all kinds of places.

sure, i wish it was all good these days too but.. which clusterfuck to focus on?
there are so many... and they are all terrible..

all i can say about it is that i am really glad that i am not just starting out in this world.
because this world now, isnt the one i recognize.

even in my own small city things are changing so much that i dont recognize it.
i wish it were different.
i wish things were at least remotely familiar..
but it is not so.

Just Plain Nuts.
05-19-2015, 06:52 PM #36
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To be honest, I knew after a couple of days in 1st grade elementary school,
that something was very not right with the world. Took me until the early
2000's, to realize the monster had a name and a shape to it, so to speak.

History has always interested me, and these days I find it sort of morbidly
fascinating chuckle.gif to explore the depth of the rabbit hole and the enormity
of the deception.

And yes, at closer quarters, I feel much the same about my small town as
you about yours. Seems I have a need to try and analyze what forces drive
the change.

No futile wishing...it is what it is.

Also - and quite personally - I have always felt this weird sympathy toward
the German fate, don't know why. Past lives or something? dunno.gif
Maybe I was a Landser or a Waffen-SS soldier...

Just bloody fascinating, to see how everything plays out - just the way Hitler
and more modern tinfoil hat nutters warned it would.

Not really sure I've got a point to get across.
Got nothing against a good debate - paradoxically enough - any case. ;)

Seems to me Nazi Germany was the only true (?) effort by any European
nation in modern history to stand up against the POO and their NWO.
But then again, maybe Hitler and his putsch were nothing but useful idiots...
05-19-2015, 06:56 PM #37
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Don't get me wrong, though.
I am just about the hippiest hippie you ever met. chuckle.gif

As I said above somewhere, I would have probably been among
the first to get free bed and breakfast at one or other of the
Nazi re-education camps.

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And I've represented real multiculturalism all my life.
Reggae and blues!

Yeah, I'm the Accidental Stoner; self-contradiction is the core of my being.

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05-19-2015, 06:57 PM #38
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well yes and that is the thing.

we cant know what 'really' happened and 'who' was really doing what behind the scenes with whom.

so it really is a big tangle indeed.
i guess it just isntsomething i delve into much.
i do think alot of fanatical stuff came from it all..
and continues..

here is something interesting though.
it is really good.
answers alot, goes very far back...

i enjoyed it very much.
it is an hour an a half and i wished it were longer.

check it out sometime.. well worth it.


Just Plain Nuts.
05-19-2015, 07:03 PM #39
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No, of course we can't.
But the more one looks around, the more solid one's gut feeling.
As far as I can tell, all circumstantial evidence point in a certain
direction...

Interesting video, thx for posting.
Will watch.
Yes, all of it is interconnected.
05-19-2015, 07:26 PM #40
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(05-19-2015, 07:03 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  No, of course we can't.
But the more one looks around, the more solid one's gut feeling.
As far as I can tell, all circumstantial evidence point in a certain
direction...

Interesting video, thx for posting.
Will watch.
Yes, all of it is interconnected.

well i think that basically, that it is all about power.. i mean, money, sure.. but they are already all badzillionaires.
so that cant be it anymore.
power and control, that is what its about.

making society itself less interested in caring about other ppl, the planet etc..
it is working quite well so far for them i would say.

look at how insane ppl get when a new gadget is released.
some ppl just simply want to actually plug their brains in to a computer..
google glasses or whatever..

lol the real zombies. its here now..but ppl cannot see it right in front of them
and even if they could, i bet they would say oh kewwwl i get to be a zombie!

they WANT to.
so yeah tptb and all of them .. gmo.. etc.. making society as stupid as possible..

i dont like society much now.
not alot i can do about it. but i dont feel part of it.
not anymore.

for me i noticed creepy change in my own life, somewhere around 2009.
for example, the bank i have hjad an account at since.. what 97 or so.. was all normal until 09
and then they would start asking me, not just once but every time i went to do banking of any kind, things like ' what is this money from'? when i deposited a cheque.
and they wanted to know other things like what i wanted money out for.
one time the teller actually asked me what was in a bag i had with me.
i had just gone to the healthfood store an had some things.. and she asked me what was it? my lunch?

i was like.. wut..
and then they wanted me to get a savings account. over and over they asked me to change it.

just things like that.. suddenly it felt like i was being scrutinized. i am not a paranoid person nor am i terribly into conspiracy stuff much..

but it was kinda hard to not notice that because it was like they were acting like pod ppl or something.
very strange.

and then ppl at my work. breaktime, ppl would just sit next to one another and text each other.
wtf.. i was like has everyone gone insane or what..

so yeah i noticed it happening.. now it is so far from anything i knew that i dont want to be part of it at all.

yes tis a good docu. let me know what you think when you watch it.

Just Plain Nuts.
05-19-2015, 08:11 PM #41
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I can so identify with your words.

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We seem to have quite a few things/traits in common.
I feel much the same.
Hyper-control-society is friggin strangling me.

But then again, I was born on the outside, somehow.
Despite the solid middle-class surrounding.
Thinking about these things the soundtrack of much of my inner life...
since childhood.


Yes, will post my thoughts on the docu.
05-19-2015, 08:26 PM #42
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yeah..

well all we can do is the best we can i guess..

this is why i got into tcm and mediation, chi kung.. lots of different aspects of that sort of living and being.

Just Plain Nuts.
05-19-2015, 08:36 PM #43
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Hmyes.

If I boil my world view down to absolute basics,
I'd say that ever since something went and became
discernible from nothing, this drama was inevitable.

Betcha anything every planet, at least with our kind of
consciousness, looks the same. Power over others or
power over self, and accelerating polarization a law of
nature. Control freaks gonna control freak - hippies
gonna hippie. Harder and harder.

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05-19-2015, 08:44 PM #44
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(05-19-2015, 08:36 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Hmyes.

If I boil my world view down to absolute basics,
I'd say that ever since something went and became
discernible from nothing, this drama was inevitable.

Betcha anything every planet, at least with our kind of
consciousness, looks the same. Power over others or
power over self, and accelerating polarization a law of
nature. Control freaks gonna control freak - hippies
gonna hippie. Harder and harder.

chuckle.gif

yeah could well be..

but it would be a waste of universal space i think, though.. i mean, we are already doing it here..
why would universe repeat it on other planets lol

i would hope not..

i guess we all just have to find happiness, joy and quality of life somehow.

im still lookin. lol.

but, if i never find it again, i have great memories of having it.
and, i am grateful for alot of things..

Just Plain Nuts.
05-19-2015, 08:49 PM #45
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So...I guess what I'm saying to myself, even by such
means as studying 20th C history and Herr Hitler's
Germany, is that existence is fractal in its very structure.

Adolf is a good example.
He was a good guy and a bad guy.
He did what he did out of love and out of hate.
In the pain and destruction that followed, beautiful
actions of absolutely selfless love also manifested.

Adolf loved his dog, loved children - and left 900 000
men to die horribly and needlessly, without much second
thought, it seems.




Zoom in - zoom out, what else is there for a true bionaut
to do?

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I can't answer your question above, coolchick.
There is no point to get across. You got me there.
I'm just letting myself get mesmerized with the beautiful,
horrible patterns.

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Anything can be Zen. chuckle.gif



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