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12-09-2012, 08:26 PM #1
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12-09-2012, 08:47 PM #2
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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The U.S.'s military toys are very impressive.

12-09-2012, 10:34 PM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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Awesome! beercheer.gif Things I pondered upon since childhood!
12-09-2012, 10:41 PM #4
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clap.gif Bravo. Things are in the shitter. Glad it's not just me. bored.gif Greatest ğkkin' what in the world? What a joke.

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12-09-2012, 11:14 PM #5
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The script was written by a liberal.

1. He is right, there is a problem.
2. He is kind of right about what is wrong.
3. He didn't offer solutions but did recite a somewhat liberal feel good look at the past.

Round 1.
The real problem is the government. It is too big. It should be 1/3 of its size. The military expense can be cut - but mostly by removing the congress from micromanaging it, treating it as a political war chest and larding civilian spending into the military budget.

Lord Acton was right, the government is corrupt, making it smaller is the only solution.

Neither party shows an interest or will to do this.

Both parties protect business. Interlocking directorates are allowed which means upper management can write their own meal ticket. Large companies like GE buy laws that cut their tax and pad their profits. Can't stop corruption in a large government. Government rules have made accounting a profit center for business. Government rules and regs need to be cut 80 to 90 percent and limited to a fixed size forever.

Much of the government EPA, DOE, HHS, Dept of Education, etc. can be put out to pasture. The environment is clean enough - the problem is we aren't enforcing laws on the books. If we quit writing new regs we might catch up. Time has come to quit wasting 100s of billions on Climate Change and "Clean energy". Put more nuclear plants in the ground and move on. For what we have wasted on Climate Change and clean energy the government could have build enough Nuclear Electric facilities to give us entirely clean almost free nuclear electric power (under 5 cents/kWh) - which means all the money spend on climate change and clean energy was wasted.

No body should get an entitlement from the government. Medicaid and welfare should require a 40 hour work week. The government should be the employer of last resort and not a sugar daddy.
12-09-2012, 11:30 PM #6
Octo Mother Superior
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(12-09-2012, 11:14 PM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  The script was written by a liberal.

1. He is right, there is a problem.
2. He is kind of right about what is wrong.
3. He didn't offer solutions but did recite a somewhat liberal feel good look at the past.

Round 1.
The real problem is the government. It is too big. It should be 1/3 of its size. The military expense can be cut - but mostly by removing the congress from micromanaging it, treating it as a political war chest and larding civilian spending into the military budget.


That was basically what Ron Paul suggested. chuckle.gif
12-09-2012, 11:41 PM #7
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(12-09-2012, 11:30 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(12-09-2012, 11:14 PM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  The script was written by a liberal.

1. He is right, there is a problem.
2. He is kind of right about what is wrong.
3. He didn't offer solutions but did recite a somewhat liberal feel good look at the past.

Round 1.
The real problem is the government. It is too big. It should be 1/3 of its size. The military expense can be cut - but mostly by removing the congress from micromanaging it, treating it as a political war chest and larding civilian spending into the military budget.


That was basically what Ron Paul suggested. chuckle.gif


Gary Johnson is as libertarian as I am and a lot more conservative. I am just a hair to the right of the political center (chaotic neutral).

Paul is about half right. Gary Johnson is better positioned. Neither one focused on moving the Republicans in the libertarian direction but focused on their political agendas (from what I can tell). This rigid and narcissistic approach was harmful in the last election.

If one of the political parties focuses on small government - there is a majority that can be had by uniting all the non-spongers.
12-10-2012, 12:04 AM #8
Octo Mother Superior
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I'm not usually going into American politics. We all have governmental issues and not much point in criticizing shït you can't do anything about.
12-10-2012, 12:13 AM #9
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(12-10-2012, 12:04 AM)Octo Wrote:  I'm not usually going into American politics. We all have governmental issues and not much point in criticizing shït you can't do anything about.


Well, the advantage of parliamentary democracies is you can vote for a party that actually reflects your views.

The only major difference between the two American political parties is which special interests they shill for.
12-10-2012, 12:22 AM #10
Octo Mother Superior
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(12-10-2012, 12:13 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  Well, the advantage of parliamentary democracies is you can vote for a party that actually reflects your views.

Lols yes we have more than 2 parties but I've yet to find one that reflects my views coffeetime.gif
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12-10-2012, 12:41 AM #11
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(12-10-2012, 12:22 AM)Octo Wrote:  
(12-10-2012, 12:13 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  Well, the advantage of parliamentary democracies is you can vote for a party that actually reflects your views.

Lols yes we have more than 2 parties but I've yet to find one that reflects my views coffeetime.gif

really?
You must not be looking hard enough?


Don't let the two party system drive you crazy... Let Cthulhu do that!

12-10-2012, 01:55 AM #12
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Had this arguement (civilly) with my mom this morning, she's a CAPITAL S Socialist. I mentioned how few years we have left to pay on our mtge, and we'd own our house except for the rent (property tax) the gov demands and she said all taxes were the fault of corporations. blink.gif I said "What? If i don't pay my property tax and the gov seizes my house, that's a corporate fault?" She said yes emo-daj.gif
12-10-2012, 02:07 AM #13
Octo Mother Superior
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damned.gif

We still love them though.
12-10-2012, 02:14 AM #14
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Yeah i guess.


I said so who creates jobs? She said supply and demand. I said but someone has to invest in the cost of creating a business so people can be hired, she said customers do that. 13.gif I said but customers don't create jobs, they purchase from businesses that someone has invested their time and money in and she said yes, customers. lmao.gif
12-10-2012, 03:15 AM #15
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The basic problem the USA has is the education system and the media have lied to the public for so long that most people wouldn't recognize reality if it hit them in the head. They would swat it aside and continue on.

My company used to do the mailing list for one of the Unions and I would read the monthly newsletter. You have never seen such a pack lies. There literally wasn't a true statement in then entire scandalsheet other than the name at the top of the first page.




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