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The short/long list of verifiable conspiracies..
12-09-2017, 07:30 AM #1
dclements Member
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Ok, I know that the title of this thread I just made up is not the greatest but today while thinking about a book called "The Big Book of Conspiracies" I thought it might be worthwhile to talk about some of the best conspiracies out there and which one's are more truthful/believable than others. Hopefully this might be educational for some and a refresher for those of us that know about them, For starters (and as an example) let's look at Operation Paperclip.

Operation Paperclip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

In a nutshell operation paperclip was a mean's for the US military to smuggle various Nazi scientists and intelligence officers into the US who would most likely not be accepted due to their ties with the Nazi party and crimes they would be charged with otherwise. While it is almost a given that the information and help that was given to the US by these people helped give us an edge in the Cold War, it has been said that some of these Nazi's used their information to make things worse between the US and Russia (making the Cold War worse than it would have been otherwise) and by making US intelligence agencies further their own goals at the expense of the US taxpayers.

As far as I know this is one of the few conspiracies that the US government doesn't even bother to deny.

John F. Kennedy assassination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Ke...y_theories

I'm sure almost everyone has heard of a conspiracy theory about JFK being assassinated by someone other than Oswald and/or that Oswald did not act alone so I won't rehash some of the basics about this one. The only things I remember about this one that are interesting is that at the time of it happening JFK was butting heads with the CIA and the military industrial complex as a whole, JFK's assassination supposedly closely followed some of the things outlined in a book written by the CIA about how to carry out an assassination in a banana republic if they ever needed to do so, and the vice president at the time of the assassination waited no time at all to take over the role as president and steamrolled the process before any one had any time to really process what had happen. Also it is kind of odd that Oswald was immediately assassinated himself (while in police custody) which made it impossible for anyone to ask Oswald much about it.


Project MK-Ultra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

Project MK-Ultra is another one of the conspiracies in which the US government no longer bother to deny. It is basically one of the CIA programs in which they experimented with mind control in the hopes that they could discover something that might be useful against Russia/China and or in the Cold War. While the idea of the CIA conducting illegal and/or unethical medical experiments on prisoners it's on citizens in order to gain an edge on the Soviets, it kind of begs the question as to what other projects they have done in which they may have crossed the line.


Roswell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_incident

Roswell (as well as UFO conspiracies in general) are kind of a large topic and somewhat hard to generalize. Why it is difficult to prove that nothing other than a weather balloon crashed down in Roswell, just as it is hard to prove that there is anything more to the JFK assassination than Oswald shooting him, there seems to be several inconsistencies to the government account as to what happened. For example if it was merely a weather balloon, then it is highly unlikely that the people reporting the "UFO" would have made the fantastic claims that they did if there was any chance that the object was man made and mistaking a weather balloon or any other similar object as a "UFO" would destroy any professional and personal integrity after they made such a false claim. The fact that the military didn't discharge or take other actions against the personal making such erroneous judgments makes one wonder if they claims were erroneous after all or if the government really just wanted to put the matter behind them. Also it is worth noting that Roswell is far from being an isolated incident since many WWII fighter pilots encountered 'Foo Fighters" (ie. UFOs that existed before the term UFO came about) and there are even cases of planes crashing and pilots getting killed during such encounters and the US military not bothering to investigate/follow up on such crashes since it is a given such events are always due to "pilot error" or mental condition at the time of the crash/disappearance. Also I believe that when the US government agency responsible for accounting and record keeping investigated Roswell base at the time of the incident they didn't find anything, but that was because every record from several months before and several months after the incident had already been erased or destroyed before they could look at it. I don't know who could authorize such a whitewashing of records or why they would authorize it, but I doubt they would do such a thing over a couple weather balloons.


..ok, that it for now but I'll try to add a little more later..
12-09-2017, 01:56 PM #2
Strigoi Member
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Paperclip was hardly a conspiracy.

Un Strigoi printre noi
12-09-2017, 06:48 PM #3
Accidental Stoner Member
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The Famous text about the 3 world wars claimed to be Mr Albert Pike's
should have a chapter of its own. While hard to believe to be written in
the 1870's at all, it still seems to surface well before WWI, which makes
its contents mindbogglingly interesting.

Same goes for the (in)famous Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion.
12-09-2017, 06:50 PM #4
Accidental Stoner Member
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(12-09-2017, 01:56 PM)Strigoi Wrote:  Paperclip was hardly a conspiracy.

This^^

The Soviets did the same.

The conspiracy was about making it look like any of the empires involved
represented anything less evil than the others.
12-09-2017, 06:54 PM #5
Accidental Stoner Member
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In other, shorter words:

The shrunken heads, human-fat-soap bars, human skin lamp shades etc
of the "extermination camps" are proven conspiracies per definition.
The Allies conspired to slander and demonize their opponent.
12-09-2017, 08:41 PM #6
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Op. Paper Clip : My Dad worked with the rocket dudes , I met some of them .

JFK , Death directly tied to the theft by Military of a Huge deposit of found treasure on white sands Missile range
where the rocket dudes were stationed with Dad , dad was involved in the treasure hunt .

The Treasure was Deposited , way before 1492
it was being Tapped By King Solomon and King Hiram
the Two Kings of the Old Testament .
The deposit was the species of Atlantis , moved before the final Devastation of their Continent .

Old Testament calls the deposit site " Ophir " today we call it King Solomon's Mines .
THERE WERE 9 ATLANTEAN DEPOSITS , EACH GIVEN A PROJECT RECOVERY NUMBER BY D.I.A.
PROJECT #1 WAS VICTORIO PEAK ON WHITE SANDS .
TRUE FACT

Project MK Ultra

I personally was one of the Brainwashed Labrats of the experiments .


Roswell

Ok , once again , Dad was stationed with the 509th at Roswell , where he and my mother met and married .
yes , a craft went down out in the Jicarillias near Corona NM

He helped clean up the mess , I've stood on the site with him , yes , it was an actual UFO ,
yet there were a Total of 4 crashes all within sight of Victorio Peak where the above treasure was stolen
off of White Sands , each craft was headed away from the Peak when they went down .
Alien Treasure retrieval operation ?
Possible , you figure it .

Ok .
My personal Life time involvement of these Con- Spirs sans Paper clip .

what do I know ?

well , been said and proven
I know enough to make Gov.'t agencies very uncomfortable .

what's it worth ?

not a dime .

each is true .

and , as a U.S. citizen , you give support to the Conspiracies .

so ?
12-09-2017, 10:37 PM #7
Below Average Genius Member
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The best book on the JFK murder might be Best Evidence. It deals with the forensic evidence of JFK's body.

The book proves that JFK's brain was searched for bullets after his body left Parkland Hospital prior to the actual autopsy in Bethesda. Any bullets were removed in order to make hash of the autopsy findings/report.

As a side note, the fact that the Navy relied on anyone to do the autopsy other than an experienced, top notch pathologist/medical examiner ought to be a major red flag from the gitgo. This was the murder of the President of the United States after all. Dr. Humes was not at all skilled for the task. This was done on purpose.

Pray for me. hug.gif

12-10-2017, 12:25 AM #8
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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we all know JFk was Murdered , we know it's been covered up .

But .

somebody reveal the Motive .

There were 9 Treasure Vaults secreted

each received a Project number ,,, this is Project #6

http://thetombstonenews.com/the-thunder-...218-84.htm


all stolen by the DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY .

Now you have the Motive and the Culprits .

you're Welcome
12-10-2017, 12:28 AM #9
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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In 1961 when JFK took office

one of his first Presidential Executive orders he signed was to impound the Treasures
being Recovered by the D.I.A.

and Johnson struck a Deal with the Conspirators within the D.I.A to rescind JFK's exec order .

Bang Bang Bang
they shot the Poor Man Down

True facts man .

again

you now have the Motive and the Culprits
12-10-2017, 12:46 PM #10
dclements Member
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(12-09-2017, 01:56 PM)Strigoi Wrote:  Paperclip was hardly a conspiracy.
Operation Paperclip seems not all that bad at first glance, but it's existence is one of the things that led to the creation of the CIA and 'supposedly' helped with the shadow government taking control of the US government along with other world governments as well. Or in other words, since the Nazi's couldn't win WWII while fighting the Allies and Russia some of their operatives choose instead to beat us from within and they may have succeeded with the help of Operation Paperclip.

And because of this, it is a conspiracy (and/or part of other conspiracy) as much as any other.
12-10-2017, 12:52 PM #11
dclements Member
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(12-09-2017, 08:41 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  Op. Paper Clip : My Dad worked with the rocket dudes , I met some of them .

JFK , Death directly tied to the theft by Military of a Huge deposit of found treasure on white sands Missile range
where the rocket dudes were stationed with Dad , dad was involved in the treasure hunt .

The Treasure was Deposited , way before 1492
it was being Tapped By King Solomon and King Hiram
the Two Kings of the Old Testament .
The deposit was the species of Atlantis , moved before the final Devastation of their Continent .

Old Testament calls the deposit site " Ophir " today we call it King Solomon's Mines .
THERE WERE 9 ATLANTEAN DEPOSITS , EACH GIVEN A PROJECT RECOVERY NUMBER BY D.I.A.
PROJECT #1 WAS VICTORIO PEAK ON WHITE SANDS .
TRUE FACT

Project MK Ultra

I personally was one of the Brainwashed Labrats of the experiments .


Roswell

Ok , once again , Dad was stationed with the 509th at Roswell , where he and my mother met and married .
yes , a craft went down out in the Jicarillias near Corona NM

He helped clean up the mess , I've stood on the site with him , yes , it was an actual UFO ,
yet there were a Total of 4 crashes all within sight of Victorio Peak where the above treasure was stolen
off of White Sands , each craft was headed away from the Peak when they went down .
Alien Treasure retrieval operation ?
Possible , you figure it .

Ok .
My personal Life time involvement of these Con- Spirs sans Paper clip .

what do I know ?

well , been said and proven
I know enough to make Gov.'t agencies very uncomfortable .

what's it worth ?

not a dime .

each is true .

and , as a U.S. citizen , you give support to the Conspiracies .

so ?
Interesting....if I had been exposed to as much as you have and/or knew as much I would be paranoid as hell. To be honest most of what I know could be part of my overactive imagination getting the better of me so I can often dismiss it when I need to, which can e useful.
12-10-2017, 12:57 PM #12
dclements Member
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(12-09-2017, 10:37 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  The best book on the JFK murder might be Best Evidence. It deals with the forensic evidence of JFK's body.

The book proves that JFK's brain was searched for bullets after his body left Parkland Hospital prior to the actual autopsy in Bethesda. Any bullets were removed in order to make hash of the autopsy findings/report.

As a side note, the fact that the Navy relied on anyone to do the autopsy other than an experienced, top notch pathologist/medical examiner ought to be a major red flag from the gitgo.  This was the murder of the President of the United States after all. Dr. Humes was not at all skilled for the task. This was done on purpose.
Cool. I'll have to check it out when I get the chance. wave.gif
12-10-2017, 02:36 PM #13
dclements Member
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Ok, now on to some of the other conspiracy theories, but before I do I wanted to mention the following YouTube clip since I accidentally came across it while looking for other stuff:

Proof the Shadow Government exists


It basically outlines how corporate conglomerates/oil and energy companies/rich and military elites are trying to suppress information and technology which threatens their ability to control everything as they have for the last 100+ years. Some of it is seems to be outright paranoia, but other parts seem to have some truth to it.

Anyways on to part 2...

9/11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

I don't as much about this conspiracy theory as much as some of the other people I have talked to, however it is one of those that can get pretty weird pretty quickly so you might need to have your tinfoil hat nearby just in case. For one thing, various government and military agencies just HAPPEN to be conducting terrorist drills involving a "what if" a rogue fighter plane entered US air space and/or US commercial plane was hijacked which completely confused the hell out of all air traffic controllers that tried to make sense of what was going on.

Then there is the lack of evidence of any actual plane hitting the pentagon, but plenty of evidence of something like a rocket made to look like a plane. And last but not least there is the problem of the third World Trade center building just happening to fall down with no plane hitting it and only minimal damage from fire. Of course, all the evidence and the only copy of it the US government had to prosecute certain people of securities fraud went up in smoke as this building went down for seemly no good reason what so ever. And of course this really no even scratching the surface of all the weird stuff happening that day. I may be crazy, but my initial reaction was that it was some kind of false flag done to justify more money being spent on military/security now that the cold war had been over for ten years and now I'm not sure if that was not just paranoia or if that isn't based somewhat on the truth.

HAARP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequ...ch_Program

Good old HAARP. To this day I don't know if the conspiracy theories based on HAARP are the work of over active imagination or if HAARP is (or was) part of some evil geniuses plan to help the shadow government take control of not only the US but also the rest of the world. All HAARP is is a bunch of high powered antennas located in Alaska doing some kind of research for reasons unknown to the rest of us mere mortals. However just the idea of these huge metal poles (and mesh cabling) cracking with energy along with some aurora lights dancing in the background is enough to make it difficult to believe it is all just innocent stuff going on there.

Although I pretty much doubt that HAARP could be used to control the weather as some people claimed, it seems plausible that it could be used as some kind of convert weapon to possibly have negative effects on peoples health in a certain geographical location. In and of itself these effects would be all but moot by themselves but coupled with something else (or multiple things) they could make someone very sick and possibly even kill them. While such ideas sound like crazy talk, it should be noted that the Japanese in WWII experimented (unsuccessfully of course) on creating a bio weapons that would only effect caucasians and US soldiers coming home from the Middle East suffered from something called 'Gulf War Syndrome' which was thought to be brought on multiple negative things in their surrounding environment, even if any one of them by themselves is mostly harmless.

https://nteb-mudflowermedia.netdna-ssl.c...theory.jpg

Gnomes of Zürich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnomes_of_Z%C3%BCrich

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/m...2ab762.jpg

While the bankers and banks in Switzerland may not be so much a real threat in and of themselves, they are part of a network of financial institutions that try to profit by hiding their clients activities (whether such activities are innocent or not so innocent) and help power to remain in the hands of the few instead of the many. Often such organizations claim that they are about 'freedom', 'liberty", etc. but they fail to mention that their services are only available to those who can afford it. Also part of the problem with the "Gnomes of Zürich" is that they are not all that different than the Fed and US banks which are another can of worms all to themselves.

..ok, that is it for now but I will try to continue on later on today.
12-10-2017, 05:27 PM #14
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Let me help you out ,, sound cool ?

Yeah , no shït there's Greed/power mongers running everything on this planet .
NO shït !
Like that hasn't been OBVIOUS for Millennium ,,

Know what the TRUE Problem with the Earth Based Human Race is ?

FEAR ! <-----<<<< That's your ğkking Problem , if you were not a mass of Cowards , then a Small Group
of Greed/Power Mongers ,,, couldn't take control of 7 billion of you .

THINK ABOUT THAT REAL DEEP, HARD AND LONG .

now , want a tin foil Hat ?

ok , on paranoia , ğck , get real , what's to be afraid of ? Death ? Torture ? imprisonment ?

You're already Enslaved and scared , you're already totally controlled ,,

so why would your Controllers harm you ?

Hmmm ?
12-10-2017, 05:43 PM #15
Meh Member
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This is an interesting thread, bookmarked for later when I have some time.



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