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The spill investigations so far…
04-22-2011, 02:26 PM #1
Tacolover II Member
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I believe it, this is pretty close to what I have been saying from the beginning, they were all idiots and management sucked...

"We wrote this week about how federal prosecutors have picked up the pace of their criminal investigation into the BP oil spill.

Here are some of the key conclusions of investigations into the blowout of BP’s Macondo well that as of the one year anniversary have been completed:
Internal investigation led by BP safety chief Mark Bly — Sept. 8, 2010

Source: http://www.bp.com, follow links “Gulf of Mexico restoration” and “investigating the accident.”

* The blowout was largely the fault of BP contractors including Deepwater Horizon rig owner Transocean and cement contractor Halliburton, and of BP’s own rig-based workers.
* Cement around the well bore most likely failed because of poor quality, allowing oil and gas to escape.
* Rig crews misread a procedure called a negative pressure test designed to determine the integrity of the well.
* When crews realized oil and gas had breached the well and blowout preventer, they diverted the material to a device on the rig instead of sending it overboard, and the hydrocarbons exploded.

Presidential Spill Commission Final Report — Jan. 11, 2011

Source: http://www.oilspillcommission.gov/final-report

* “Failure of management” and individual mistakes by workers for BP, Halliburton and Transocean directly caused the accident, but it also revealed “systemic failures” in the oil industry and its government regulators.
* Companies placed undue reliance on timely intervention and human judgment but didn’t provide workers with necessary information, tools and training.
* Regulators must acquire more technical expertise to improve oversight.
* Industry must take unilateral steps to improve safety, including creating a new safety institute.

Presidential Spill Commission’s Chief Counsel Report — Feb. 17, 2011

Source: http://www.oilspillcommission.gov/chief-counsels-report

* BP had reported concerns with Halliburton cement work on previous jobs and on the Macondo project, and should have monitored the cement job more closely.
* Halliburton did not fully review its own cement foam stability test two days before the blowout.
* Halliburton did not cooperate with investigators.

Blowout Preventer Forensics Report done for BOEMRE— March 23, 2011

Source: DNV report on blowout preventer used at BP well

* A section of drill pipe buckled and moved off-center between the blowout preventer’s shear rams, preventing them from fully cutting and closing the pipe as oil and gas surged out of it."

04-22-2011, 04:28 PM #2
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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One bright note is that the U.S. Department of Interior has steadily improved its drilling regulations without waiting for Congress to act. There are new safety measures, like requiring the development of deep-water containment systems for blowouts, and tougher, more-independent oversight.

Lets hope something was learned. Congress needs to stay out of this anyway, this is human and wildlife health and safety issue, not a political issue.



04-23-2011, 05:04 PM #3
Tacolover II Member
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""Transocean failed to ensure that its onboard management team and crew had sufficient training and knowledge to take full responsibility for the safety of the vessel," the report said."

There is a real void in knowledge d/experienced management people out there.

04-23-2011, 05:08 PM #4
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
04-23-2011, 05:30 PM #5
Kreeper Griobhtha
Posts:11,120 Threads:770 Joined:Feb 2011


AP IMPACT: 3,200 abandoned wells lack cement plugs

"A government list obtained by The Associated Press shows that in addition to 27,000 oil and gas wells that were sealed with cement and abandoned without any regular monitoring, another 3,200 old wells have quietly been left unused without any cement plugging to help prevent leaks."


What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
04-23-2011, 05:31 PM #6
Tacolover II Member
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(04-23-2011, 05:08 PM)Shadow Wrote:  See this Taco?

BP sues Deepwater Horizon owner Transocean for $40bn

Yes I did Shadow, like what I have been trying to say for the last year, Dick Cheny's Halliburton screwed the pooch too.

Good experienced people are hard to find.

All the Safety Regulations in the world won't fix inexperienced management/workers. You just can't fix stupid.

btw, any of y'all purchase a new hand held circular saw lately. Replaced mine and damn near cut my fingers off with so many safety switches one has to move his hand all around the saw just to get it to work. Damn thing is more dangerous than without all the safety switches
04-23-2011, 05:43 PM #7
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
I have a Hitachi cordless and it's same, where you need to put your fingers to get it going is scary. have to actually reach across the handle under the saw to get the sheild up damned.gif have a Dewalt too, it's better but has a cord.
04-23-2011, 06:04 PM #8
Tacolover II Member
Posts:377 Threads:59 Joined:Feb 2011
The hard truth in the matter is the hydrocarbon is still the cheapest and most efficient fuel and until we can develop alternative fuel sources competitively priced we have to go further and deeper to get it. The further and deeper we/they go the higher chance of a accident. Including Transporting through pipelines and tankers.
All Prez Obama's speeches about oil will do nothing as he is actually saying nothing. He has words but clueless.

What irritates me is the American Taxpayers pay taxes that government subsidizes in alternative fuel such as bio diesel then sells it overseas for higher profits. So taxpayers essentially are paying to make others profits without even buying their product or service.

In other words we are getting screwedgaah.gif
04-24-2011, 05:40 AM #9
Tacolover II Member
Posts:377 Threads:59 Joined:Feb 2011
Even harder truth is the efficiency of your typical InternalCombustionEngine (ICE) is in lower 20 percentile ratings. Most are between 18-20% efficient


After all these years and 20% efficiency is the best modern day Engineering can do?

To me that's depressing...



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