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The truth about climate models
05-25-2016, 07:04 PM #1
Kreeper Griobhtha
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The Truth Warming Alarmists Don’t Want You To Know About The Climate Models

Quote:e global warming alarmists tell us to trust the science. But when it comes to climate studies, there’s less science and more accounting going on there.

Quote: Encyclopaedia Britannica says “scientific models at best are approximations of the objects and systems that they represent,” but “they are not exact replicas.” In the case of climate models, they are not even close to being approximate replicas.

Quote:Michaels and Wojick did a little digging and what they learned was “that modeling completely dominates climate change research.” In other words, climate scientists put greater faith in results produced more by math calculations than solid science.

Quote:“In short it looks like less than 4% of the science, the climate change part, is doing about 55% of the modeling done in the whole of science."

Quote:Trusting the models too much is not the only gaping hole in the climate alarmists’ claims. Their bigger problem is that they rely on models that have been consistently wrong. The heat that the models have predicted for decades has simply not arrived.

Quote:And, as the Daily Caller pointed out last week, the federal government has spent billions — close to $100 billion, actually, since just fiscal 2012 — on “science” that is undergirded by failed models. About a month earlier, the Daily Caller also noted that the models were unable to “predict CO2 would green the Western U.S.”

Quote:Climate scientists are spending more energy and resources trying to upgrade their flawed models than they are trying to understand the climate itself. And it’s a good bet that what most climate scientists will consider improved modeling will be programs that predict even greater warmth.

Quote:The models, however, simply spit out the outcomes that the researchers who developed them programmed them to. Quite clearly, the science isn’t settled. In fact, to some extent, it isn’t even science.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
05-25-2016, 08:29 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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05-26-2016, 05:25 PM #3
Coolchick Member
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bah.
they dont know whats going on any more than we do lol

i should have become a weather broadcaster.
they dont even have to be right, and they wont be fired.
lol

Just Plain Nuts.
05-27-2016, 02:29 PM #4
Kreeper Griobhtha
Posts:10,814 Threads:651 Joined:Feb 2011
(05-26-2016, 05:25 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  bah.
they dont know whats going on any more than we do lol

i should have become a weather broadcaster.
they dont even have to be right, and they wont be fired.
lol

Well, we are warming. But we are warming because we are at the tail end of coming out of the last ice age. Humans have had little, or nothing, to do with it. What we have done is poisoned and polluted the planet.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
05-27-2016, 03:12 PM #5
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,136 Threads:428 Joined:Jun 2012
(05-27-2016, 02:29 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-26-2016, 05:25 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  bah.
they dont know whats going on any more than we do lol

i should have become a weather broadcaster.
they dont even have to be right, and they wont be fired.
lol

Well, we are warming. But we are warming because we are at the tail end of coming out of the last ice age. Humans have had little, or nothing, to do with it. What we have done is poisoned and polluted the planet.

Yes, and that pollution (some scientists say) is what is causing the El Nino effect, hence climate change.
05-27-2016, 06:01 PM #6
Coolchick Member
Posts:5,205 Threads:118 Joined:Mar 2013
(05-27-2016, 02:29 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-26-2016, 05:25 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  bah.
they dont know whats going on any more than we do lol

i should have become a weather broadcaster.
they dont even have to be right, and they wont be fired.
lol

Well, we are warming. But we are warming because we are at the tail end of coming out of the last ice age. Humans have had little, or nothing, to do with it. What we have done is poisoned and polluted the planet.

your last 2 sentences make no sense lol

i dont understand how ppl can say pollution has nothing to do with changing the atmosphere..
which in turn would obviously affect climate..

Just Plain Nuts.
05-27-2016, 06:04 PM #7
Coolchick Member
Posts:5,205 Threads:118 Joined:Mar 2013
(05-27-2016, 03:12 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 02:29 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-26-2016, 05:25 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  bah.
they dont know whats going on any more than we do lol

i should have become a weather broadcaster.
they dont even have to be right, and they wont be fired.
lol

Well, we are warming. But we are warming because we are at the tail end of coming out of the last ice age. Humans have had little, or nothing, to do with it. What we have done is poisoned and polluted the planet.

Yes, and that pollution (some scientists say) is what is causing the El Nino effect, hence climate change.

oh we dont even need 'scientists' or tell us anything

its common sense..

i dont know how many megakajillions of waste we are belching into the air every second all over the world .. not to mention into the water and everywhere else we inhabit..

it is not 'natural' lol
of course we have ƒükkêd it all up.

i dont get why or how, ppl can say 'oh no humans dint do it '

thats simply ridiculous.

Just Plain Nuts.
05-27-2016, 06:05 PM #8
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,136 Threads:428 Joined:Jun 2012
(05-27-2016, 06:04 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 03:12 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 02:29 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-26-2016, 05:25 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  bah.
they dont know whats going on any more than we do lol

i should have become a weather broadcaster.
they dont even have to be right, and they wont be fired.
lol

Well, we are warming. But we are warming because we are at the tail end of coming out of the last ice age. Humans have had little, or nothing, to do with it. What we have done is poisoned and polluted the planet.

Yes, and that pollution (some scientists say) is what is causing the El Nino effect, hence climate change.

oh we dont even need 'scientists' or tell us anything

its common sense..

i dont know how many megakajillions of waste we are belching into the air every second all over the world .. not to mention into the water and everywhere else we inhabit..

it is not 'natural' lol
of course we have ƒükkêd it all up.

i dont get why or how, ppl can say 'oh no humans dint do it '

thats simply ridiculous.

I agree with you CC.
05-27-2016, 06:06 PM #9
Coolchick Member
Posts:5,205 Threads:118 Joined:Mar 2013
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Just Plain Nuts.
05-27-2016, 06:22 PM #10
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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05-27-2016, 06:31 PM #11
Kreeper Griobhtha
Posts:10,814 Threads:651 Joined:Feb 2011
(05-27-2016, 06:01 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 02:29 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-26-2016, 05:25 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  bah.
they dont know whats going on any more than we do lol

i should have become a weather broadcaster.
they dont even have to be right, and they wont be fired.
lol

Well, we are warming. But we are warming because we are at the tail end of coming out of the last ice age. Humans have had little, or nothing, to do with it. What we have done is poisoned and polluted the planet.

your last 2 sentences make no sense lol

i dont understand how ppl can say pollution has nothing to do with changing the atmosphere..
which in turn would obviously affect climate..

It has had little to do with it because the climate is changing naturally. If the "greenhouse gasses" are enough to keep the heat in then why aren't they enough to keep the heat out? Does that even make sense? In truth, they have no idea how pollution affects the climate. It is all conjecture. That's why NASA has launched the The Studies of Emissions, Atmospheric Composition, Clouds and Climate Coupling by Regional Surveys mission. The entire "climate change" scare is about money. Billions of dollars are being made. Unfortunately, they are distracting from the real issue. The pollutants are poisoning us and our children.

Remember the crying Indian commercial from back in the 70's? Through the 60's, 70's and early 80's great strides were made toward cleaning up the environment. The clean air, land and soil acts were beginning to be very effective. The problem was that industries were given too much time to clean up their emissions and to quit polluting. Then, when the deadlines approached, the focus shifted from pollution to "climate change". With the focus off of pollution the corporate masters were able to all but repeal the pollution efforts of the previous 30 years. Pollution is personal and can not be debated. It affects us directly every day. Climate change is abstract. Actually, climate change is not so abstract. It is not deniable. It is happening. The debate is over the cause of climate change which then morphs into whether the change even exists. It is very real. But we didn't cause it. It is a natural cycle which makes the whole argument ridiculous.

Personally, I care more about clean air to breathe, water to drink and food to eat. But even if we cleaned up the environment we would still have climate change.

And one day there will be another cooling phase and we will have another ice age.

It's the cycle of nature.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
05-27-2016, 06:38 PM #12
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,136 Threads:428 Joined:Jun 2012
(05-27-2016, 06:31 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 06:01 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 02:29 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-26-2016, 05:25 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  bah.
they dont know whats going on any more than we do lol

i should have become a weather broadcaster.
they dont even have to be right, and they wont be fired.
lol

Well, we are warming. But we are warming because we are at the tail end of coming out of the last ice age. Humans have had little, or nothing, to do with it. What we have done is poisoned and polluted the planet.

your last 2 sentences make no sense lol

i dont understand how ppl can say pollution has nothing to do with changing the atmosphere..
which in turn would obviously affect climate..

It has had little to do with it because the climate is changing naturally. If the "greenhouse gasses" are enough to keep the heat in then why aren't they enough to keep the heat out? Does that even make sense? In truth, they have no idea how pollution affects the climate. It is all conjecture. That's why NASA has launched the The Studies of Emissions, Atmospheric Composition, Clouds and Climate Coupling by Regional Surveys mission. The entire "climate change" scare is about money. Billions of dollars are being made. Unfortunately, they are distracting from the real issue. The pollutants are poisoning us and our children.

Remember the crying Indian commercial from back in the 70's? Through the 60's, 70's and early 80's great strides were made toward cleaning up the environment. The clean air, land and soil acts were beginning to be very effective. The problem was that industries were given too much time to clean up their emissions and to quit polluting. Then, when the deadlines approached, the focus shifted from pollution to "climate change". With the focus off of pollution the corporate masters were able to all but repeal the pollution efforts of the previous 30 years. Pollution is personal and can not be debated. It affects us directly every day. Climate change is abstract. Actually, climate change is not so abstract. It is not deniable. It is happening. The debate is over the cause of climate change which then morphs into whether the change even exists. It is very real. But we didn't cause it. It is a natural cycle which makes the whole argument ridiculous.

Personally, I care more about clean air to breathe, water to drink and food to eat. But even if we cleaned up the environment we would still have climate change.

And one day there will be another cooling phase and we will have another ice age.

It's the cycle of nature.

I think another factor is the decimation of forests throughout the world and their part in regulating temperature.

http://www.climateandweather.net/global-...ation.html
05-27-2016, 06:42 PM #13
Coolchick Member
Posts:5,205 Threads:118 Joined:Mar 2013
US are you posting from the future
cause your post says 11:38 and it is only 11:35

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Just Plain Nuts.
05-27-2016, 06:43 PM #14
Kreeper Griobhtha
Posts:10,814 Threads:651 Joined:Feb 2011
(05-27-2016, 06:38 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 06:31 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 06:01 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 02:29 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-26-2016, 05:25 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  bah.
they dont know whats going on any more than we do lol

i should have become a weather broadcaster.
they dont even have to be right, and they wont be fired.
lol

Well, we are warming. But we are warming because we are at the tail end of coming out of the last ice age. Humans have had little, or nothing, to do with it. What we have done is poisoned and polluted the planet.

your last 2 sentences make no sense lol

i dont understand how ppl can say pollution has nothing to do with changing the atmosphere..
which in turn would obviously affect climate..

It has had little to do with it because the climate is changing naturally. If the "greenhouse gasses" are enough to keep the heat in then why aren't they enough to keep the heat out? Does that even make sense? In truth, they have no idea how pollution affects the climate. It is all conjecture. That's why NASA has launched the The Studies of Emissions, Atmospheric Composition, Clouds and Climate Coupling by Regional Surveys mission. The entire "climate change" scare is about money. Billions of dollars are being made. Unfortunately, they are distracting from the real issue. The pollutants are poisoning us and our children.

Remember the crying Indian commercial from back in the 70's? Through the 60's, 70's and early 80's great strides were made toward cleaning up the environment. The clean air, land and soil acts were beginning to be very effective. The problem was that industries were given too much time to clean up their emissions and to quit polluting. Then, when the deadlines approached, the focus shifted from pollution to "climate change". With the focus off of pollution the corporate masters were able to all but repeal the pollution efforts of the previous 30 years. Pollution is personal and can not be debated. It affects us directly every day. Climate change is abstract. Actually, climate change is not so abstract. It is not deniable. It is happening. The debate is over the cause of climate change which then morphs into whether the change even exists. It is very real. But we didn't cause it. It is a natural cycle which makes the whole argument ridiculous.

Personally, I care more about clean air to breathe, water to drink and food to eat. But even if we cleaned up the environment we would still have climate change.

And one day there will be another cooling phase and we will have another ice age.

It's the cycle of nature.

I think another factor is the decimation of forests throughout the world and their part in regulating temperature.

http://www.climateandweather.net/global-...ation.html

Well, cities and open land are definitely hotter than forested areas. And the deforestation definitely isn't helping with O2 / CO2 ratios. That is another great reason to legalize, and encourage the farming of, hemp. It would do wonders in oxygen levels as well as replenish the soil.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
05-27-2016, 06:45 PM #15
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,136 Threads:428 Joined:Jun 2012
(05-27-2016, 06:43 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 06:38 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 06:31 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 06:01 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-27-2016, 02:29 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  Well, we are warming. But we are warming because we are at the tail end of coming out of the last ice age. Humans have had little, or nothing, to do with it. What we have done is poisoned and polluted the planet.

your last 2 sentences make no sense lol

i dont understand how ppl can say pollution has nothing to do with changing the atmosphere..
which in turn would obviously affect climate..

It has had little to do with it because the climate is changing naturally. If the "greenhouse gasses" are enough to keep the heat in then why aren't they enough to keep the heat out? Does that even make sense? In truth, they have no idea how pollution affects the climate. It is all conjecture. That's why NASA has launched the The Studies of Emissions, Atmospheric Composition, Clouds and Climate Coupling by Regional Surveys mission. The entire "climate change" scare is about money. Billions of dollars are being made. Unfortunately, they are distracting from the real issue. The pollutants are poisoning us and our children.

Remember the crying Indian commercial from back in the 70's? Through the 60's, 70's and early 80's great strides were made toward cleaning up the environment. The clean air, land and soil acts were beginning to be very effective. The problem was that industries were given too much time to clean up their emissions and to quit polluting. Then, when the deadlines approached, the focus shifted from pollution to "climate change". With the focus off of pollution the corporate masters were able to all but repeal the pollution efforts of the previous 30 years. Pollution is personal and can not be debated. It affects us directly every day. Climate change is abstract. Actually, climate change is not so abstract. It is not deniable. It is happening. The debate is over the cause of climate change which then morphs into whether the change even exists. It is very real. But we didn't cause it. It is a natural cycle which makes the whole argument ridiculous.

Personally, I care more about clean air to breathe, water to drink and food to eat. But even if we cleaned up the environment we would still have climate change.

And one day there will be another cooling phase and we will have another ice age.

It's the cycle of nature.

I think another factor is the decimation of forests throughout the world and their part in regulating temperature.

http://www.climateandweather.net/global-...ation.html

Well, cities and open land are definitely hotter than forested areas. And the deforestation definitely isn't helping with O2 / CO2 ratios. That is another great reason to legalize, and encourage the farming of, hemp. It would do wonders in oxygen levels as well as replenish the soil.

Maybe we all need to get back to subsistence farming.



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