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12-08-2014, 08:16 PM #16
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(12-08-2014, 07:10 PM)Cosmic August Wrote:  Most drug addicts and alcoholics as well are trying in vain desperation to escape their terrible realities, too much to bare and too hard to face alone, usually childhood traumas inflicted upon them during too highly impressionable and too easily vulnerable young ages by cold hearted self centered uncaring unloving parents, who treat their kids like the screwing around accidents they know they were and still are, as if they're seen and heard as being one step away from the walking talking abortions they almost became and thats why around eighty percent of imprisoned people were raised like wolves in broken homes and strike out damned against a robotic society with emotional anguish and rage and violence and robbery and arson and drug dealing and drug using and murder and rape and suicide and then instead of facing our real problems, they are ruthlessly hurled into steel cages away from the sights and out of the minds of a human civilization lost and trapped in greed driven denial, from out of our head warped cradles and into our mind twisted graves and like it or not admit it or not, lets try and never forget to remember that those doomed people are keeping the f###en schutzstaffel emulating police and the f###en schutzstaffel emulating drug enforcement agency in business every sad and sorry morning and day and night of the lonely crucified alive years..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMRDC4UDsnUembedded

Good and relevant tunes CA? But, I don't agree that one can't change their life if they really want to.
12-08-2014, 08:36 PM #17
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It's like giving up cigarettes, alcohol, or drugs... one must actually want to. All of the above can take some time, and make you feel like ass for a while, but it does pass and normalcy returns.
I've come to realize that most peoples so called "depression", is in fact the result of bad diet and gut flora imbalance.
The gut manufactures far more serotonin than the brain. http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...ond-brain/
This is the dirty little secret big pharma doesn't want the masses to know.

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12-08-2014, 09:25 PM #18
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12-08-2014, 10:45 PM #19
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(12-08-2014, 08:36 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  It's like giving up cigarettes, alcohol, or drugs... one must actually want to. All of the above can take some time, and make you feel like ass for a while, but it does pass and normalcy returns.
I've come to realize that most peoples so called "depression", is in fact the result of bad diet and gut flora imbalance.
The gut manufactures far more serotonin than the brain. http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...ond-brain/
This is the dirty little secret big pharma doesn't want the masses to know.

Very interesting topic JR, and the medical profession still don't treat the whole body, the whole person.

I would also like to see a study as to how all the chemicals, GMO etc. in our food is affecting our mood, mental processes.
12-08-2014, 10:47 PM #20
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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So now my son is feeling low and I had a long talk with him. His generation is so screwed, but, again, I gave him near future goals to look forward to, such as looking in to skydiving in the Spring. He's young and already bored with life. dunno.gif
12-08-2014, 10:56 PM #21
Octo Mother Superior
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What else can you do? At least he has a good mother to whom he can talk about these matters.
12-08-2014, 11:03 PM #22
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(12-08-2014, 10:56 PM)Octo Wrote:  What else can you do? At least he has a good mother to whom he can talk about these matters.

It feels like there is very little I can do except to help direct their thinking on different paths. Reading and thinking about others' messages (quotes) some times helps too, well, for me it does.

Bend, you don't have to break.

"Life is a mixture of good times and bad times, happy moments and unhappy moments. The next time you are experiencing one of those bad times or unhappy moments that take you close to your breaking point, bend but don't break. Try your best not to let the situation get the best of you."

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12-08-2014, 11:08 PM #23
Octo Mother Superior
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Oh wow! That tree... blink.gif
12-09-2014, 01:38 AM #24
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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That's harsh sad2.gif how rough does it have to be to contemplate that.

US, it's law in Canada that you report this to the RCMP. If you are aware they intend to suicide, you don't report it, and they do harm themselves fatally or other wise, you are an accessory to a crime and can be charged. I went through that with my neighbor. For nearly a year I tried compassion and concern, she just got steadily worse. Then the blow-out came one night. I phoned around looking for help for her and one counselor I talked to asked why I hadn't reported her, and explained it to me. So I called the cops, they came and took her in. She hates me now, but she got help and now she's quite happy. It's harsh and may seem a betrayal, but I knew I wasn't qualified in any way to deal with it capably.
12-09-2014, 01:55 AM #25
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(12-08-2014, 06:05 PM)Octo Wrote:  Oh noes! That they actually told you this suggests they're not going to do it, just asking for help and support, which you apparently provided.

I hope they hang in there, it must weigh heavy on you as well. sad2.gif

i agree, cause usually the ones that do it just do it.. you cant have someone committed to a psych ward for saying they have been thinking about suicide.. that is way too harsh.. years ago i thought about it, told my mother, her way of dealing with it was to then ignore me 100% as she didnt want to know about it, not really what you expect mothers to do.. bitch.. lol.. *rolls eyes*

ive got a friend online i talk to everyday that i have talked out of suicide a million times.. she even has attempted it and they didnt put her in a psych ward (thats in london).. in my country they shut down most of the mental hospitals, all those people roam the streets now, eating out of bins and sleeping rough.. there is this lovely homeless man i talk to up the road some days, he is totally off with the fairies (sp?, cant think to spell today) has told me he has been in mental hospitals and they just release him.. he is such a doll..
12-09-2014, 01:55 AM #26
Octo Mother Superior
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Oy! That kind of settles it right there damned.gif
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12-09-2014, 02:44 PM #27
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(12-08-2014, 10:47 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  So now my son is feeling low and I had a long talk with him. His generation is so screwed, but, again, I gave him near future goals to look forward to, such as looking in to skydiving in the Spring. He's young and already bored with life. dunno.gif

maybe the social sector would be something for him.
every day is different. new faces. new challenges.
dunno how old he is but what about an internship at your local psychatry?^^ i bet they would need some helping hands. medicine in general is multifaceted. only thing that sucks is everything gerontology related. at least that's my opinion.
12-09-2014, 02:59 PM #28
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As someone who works with mentally ill people if things get worse you need to seek professional help. Not just for your friends but also to ensure you do not end up feeling ill if one of them does decide to try and attempt to commit suicide. In England if suicide is discussed then generally a Section can be enforced although this involves two doctors, one social worker and the police. Most times though I find that those who talk about suicide generally do not do it. It is the ones that say nothing who carry the greatest risk. However if your friends continue to show this attitude and you see no improvement or things worsen you need to get help. This is for your own well-being. You may think that you can carry the weight of your friends problems on your shoulders but you cannot. Professionals are there to help in these situations and by calling them it does not necessarily mean a section. In England we have Home Treatment Teams. These H.T.T's check on those at risk over a period of time in the home environment of those that are ill. I'm not sure what American or Canadian policy is so I really cannot comment further but I will repeat that you cannot help them on your own no matter if you think you can. If something happens you will struggle to deal with it. Christmas is notorious in my profession for these types of cases so just be mindful. Take care and all the best.

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
12-09-2014, 04:05 PM #29
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Quote: "One must have ones delusions to live, if you look at life too honestly and clearly life does become unbearable, because its a pretty grim enterprise you will admit"



Astoundingly and shockingly around a million people commit suicide every year while ten to twenty million others attempt to kill themselves because they are not capable of deluding themselves for they are not willing to bow down and surrender to their illusory delusions > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide
12-09-2014, 04:50 PM #30
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(12-09-2014, 04:05 PM)Cosmic August Wrote:  
Quote: "One must have ones delusions to live, if you look at life too honestly and clearly life does become unbearable, because its a pretty grim enterprise you will admit"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsnxoRfXLqsembedded

Astoundingly and shockingly around a million people commit suicide every year while ten to twenty million others attempt to kill themselves because they are not capable of deluding themselves for they are not willing to bow down and surrender to their illusory delusions > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide

In England there are over six million people with mental health disorders. Mental health is the third biggest amount of resource use in the N.H.S yet local councils and boroughs spend as little as four percent of their budgets on this problem and it is completely underfunded. This is going to be a hotly debatable topic in relation to benefits and welfare in five months time when the next General Election is held. The Conservatives want to keep cutting welfare but they are targeting areas that spend very little when one considers pensions as the biggest source of welfare funding. There are many ideas how to tackle the problems but all are radical or carry risk to the rich. For example why should wealthy pensioners be entitled to free travel, free television licenses and free winter fuel allowances? As usual the Conservatives target the poor first.

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?



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