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UN: Radiation"plume" to hit US Friday
03-17-2011, 01:32 PM #1
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote:"Health and nuclear experts emphasize that radiation in the plume will be diluted as it travels and, at worst, would have extremely minor health consequences in the United States, even if hints of it are ultimately detectable. In a similar way, radiation from the Chernobyl disaster in 1986 spread around the globe and reached the West Coast of the United States in 10 days, its levels measurable but minuscule."

Read more: nytimes.com

It's apparent they are trying to downplay this as much as possible, and I would not worry myself IF this disaster were over and contained. The reality here is anything but. With 6 plants in meltdown in one form or another, and mox reactor no.3 with its enriched uranium fuel apparently still marching toward meltdown, there is no accurate method by which to forecast potentials at this point.

This article is more of an effort to quell peoples fears. the only concrete information it provided was that in 24 hours, the first wave of radiation will hit the US.

Several sources on the internet sited high gamma ray spikes on the east coast yesterday, suspiciously some of those sources are gone.

Stay safe everybody! grouphug.gif cheers.gif

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03-17-2011, 01:46 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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This doesn't sound good at all! I'm reading the local news here that the water 'bombing' with choppers was pretty much a fail. Out of 200 tries only 2 were successful damned.gif Fire engines or police water cannons can't even get close due to high radiation

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03-17-2011, 01:47 PM #3
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What has not happened can not be added nor taken away from this equation. Valid points you're making JayRodney
03-17-2011, 01:51 PM #4
Octo Mother Superior
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What I'm getting from the news is that: Helicopter water bombing failed, Water cannons from fire engines not possible, radiation levels not decreased.

So, they're no longer even trying to cool down the fuel rods? I think that plume will be much bigger and redder damned.gif
03-17-2011, 02:00 PM #5
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There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
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03-17-2011, 02:05 PM #6
Octo Mother Superior
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Ok now they say they have a 'special' fire engine spraying water on the spent fuel of reactor 3.

Suicide mission most likely damned.gif


...also, Swedish journalist leaving Japan
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03-17-2011, 02:13 PM #7
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Japan Lying - US Experts Try To Decipher Reports

The Japanese government's radiation report for the country's 47 prefectures Wednesday had a notable omission: Fukushima, ground zero in Japan's nuclear crisis. Measurements from Ibaraki, just south of Fukushima, were also blanked out.

Radiation experts in the USA say that the lack of information about radioactivity released from the smoldering reactors makes it impossible to gauge the current danger, project how bad a potential meltdown might be or calculate how much fallout might reach the USA.

Japanese nuclear experts are hard at work gathering information, said Fred Mettler, the U.S. representative for the United Nation's committee on the health effects of radiation. "They're monitoring and evaluating and watching the meteorology," he said. "They need to know what the dose rates are in various places, what direction the (radiation is) moving in and what's causing it."

Conflicting accounts of the radiation levels emerged in Tokyo and on Capitol Hill. Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said Wednesday that the radiation detected at the Fukushima plant had fallen steadily over the past 12 hours. But U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) chief Gregory Jaczko told a House energy subcommittee earlier in the day that radiation levels at the Fukushima plant were "extremely high."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-...7_ST_N.htm

Posted to further prove they have no idea what the winds may bring. Remain calm my ass, they are trying to prevent a mass exodus of the west coast.
03-17-2011, 02:43 PM #8
Octo Mother Superior
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Radiation levels rising


http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/
03-17-2011, 03:24 PM #9
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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The Intel Hub To Monitor West Coast Radiation Readings

http://theintelhub.com/2011/03/16/the-in...-readings/

More reliable than a gov site I'll wager a half sack of IPA
03-17-2011, 03:36 PM #10
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote:I have purchased a state of the art dosimeter and will me monitoring mR/hr exposure in Oregon.
hi5.gif Nice find Shadow! Couldn't find the link to the info yet though? dunno.gif But if the readings get too high, we will be greeted with a DHS domain takeover, or will they for the first time do what they are supposed to be doing and allow it to remain for our safety?

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03-17-2011, 03:39 PM #11
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Dunno JR. WRH http://whatreallyhappened.com/ will be monitoring in Hawaii too. I think both sites haven't gt the monitors set up, have just purchased them.
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03-17-2011, 03:59 PM #12
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Nice heads up on those sites, thank you shadow.
03-17-2011, 04:07 PM #13
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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03-17-2011, 04:14 PM #14
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Then there is the problem of how to get the monitor info from the unit converted to zero's and ones. I'm certain they invested in something more substantial than a usb Geiger counter, those Chinese things are notoriously inaccurate and cheap.


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03-17-2011, 04:19 PM #15
Octo Mother Superior
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(03-17-2011, 01:46 PM)Octo Wrote:  This doesn't sound good at all! I'm reading the local news here that the water 'bombing' with choppers was pretty much a fail. Out of 200 tries only 2 were successful damned.gif Fire engines or police water cannons can't even get close due to high radiation

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Even more disturbing; all of the above has been removed from the newspapers damned.gif



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