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Veteran shot dead by B.C. police treated for PTSD
09-15-2012, 06:28 AM #1
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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A man fatally shot at his home in a confrontation with RCMP in Prince George, B.C., was a veteran of the Bosnian conflict who was finally getting treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder, says his family.

Greg Matters was a soldier for 15 years, his sister, Tracey, said on Thursday.

He left the Canadian Forces in 2009 and after he returned to his home town in northern British Columbia it became clear to those who loved him that Matters was suffering from PTSD, she said.

"There was a delay in him getting treatment," said his sister, who returned to Canada from Australia after learning her brother was dead.

"We actually, as a family, suspected he had post-traumatic stress disorder and we sought treatment independently."

About a year and half ago, he began treatment at the Operational Stress Injury clinic in Vancouver, one of nine across Canada funded by Veterans Affairs.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-co...-ptsd.html

This is a different take on what I've heard. Fellow I work with has a brother who is (was) Greg's neighbor, he said the family had been trying to get help for Greg without results. He said Greg would dress up in camos and patrol the area. He was never armed, and was unarmed when they shot him. He was not getting treatment.

09-15-2012, 07:32 AM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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It's so goddamn sad sad2.gif
09-15-2012, 02:07 PM #3
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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It's reall sad :`( why'd they shoot him? Sure it was a standoff (?) but why not let him talk to his family or friends? He was unarmed, at his own house, wasn't hurting anyone. Why were the rcmp there at all? It's just bizarre.
09-15-2012, 03:36 PM #4
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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That's what alot of people are asking. Why do they have to shoot to kill. If it's a standoff and the troubled person is not shooting anyone, why don't police back off? Why aren't police trained in how to handle the mentally ill (and there are alot of peple that are)?
09-15-2012, 03:44 PM #5
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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They are programmed to kill...kill...kill... then sent home with no deprogramming. 13.gif Honestly, what could possibly go wrong? dunno.gif

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09-15-2012, 03:53 PM #6
Octo Mother Superior
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I watched a documentary a few years ago about Scandinavian UN 'peace keepers'. A Swedish soldier totally broke down and cry saying you never ever forget the sound of a bullet hit human flesh. Sad state of affairs sad2.gif
09-15-2012, 03:58 PM #7
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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I want whoever shot him charged with murder. The guy was on his own property, unarmed and not harming anyone gaah.gif
09-15-2012, 04:05 PM #8
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I use to work in police enforcement a very long time ago and the first thing that I noticed happening to me was desensitization. I'm wondering if that is some sort of coping mechanism because I was I shock most of the time reading what people do to each other. I would ask is someone here playing a joke on me after I read some horrific report (I was new so I was expecting an initiation); nope.

I also noticed that the males had a boy's club, if you will, they would beef themselves up (with steroids? which affect behaviour) and take macho to the limit. It seems nothing has really changed in decades, i.e. RCMP.

After a shooting it's the same rhetoric, the cop says "I was protecting myself and others'". Well, you would not have to protect anyone if you just walked away and deal with the matter later, when tensions subsided. Just the presence and reactions of police is enough to push a desperate mentally ill person over the edge.

The odd thing is, is that I heard on the radio that police officers are trained in how to handle violent situations with mentally ill (questionable behaviour), but they never seem to practice it in real life. Although, when I watched a reality show about Las Vegas cops, they seem to have it more together in dealing with alcohol-fused situations.

09-15-2012, 04:11 PM #9
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Oddly, Vegas is a conservative lot - those who actually reside there. They consider most tourists wack jobs, as did they Elvis, and I would tend to agree.

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09-15-2012, 04:13 PM #10
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Good post U.S.
09-15-2012, 04:13 PM #11
Octo Mother Superior
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No doubt is there desensitization at play. My brother and sister both used to work as paramedics and they both said it's an absolute must to be able to cope with the horrors of life and death. But I think in law enforcement it's just like you said, steroids coupled with most of them are not brainiacs. uhoh.gif



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