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Was 9/11 a false flag?
10 hours ago #31
dclements Member
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(Yesterday, 04:18 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(Yesterday, 03:46 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Absolutely.

That is why the next European war will have to have a totally different look to it.
More like massive unrest in the street and breakdown of local order, than
Operation Barbarossa.


Agreed, and technology has increased the prospect that things are going to be like nothing prior.
It's going to be a case of head for the proverbial hills if you want to survive.
While it is really not anything new, the problems with NBC (Nuclear/Biological/Chemical) warfare or attacks are pretty scary and no country is really prepared for it other that the continuing conventional efforts to keep such resources and weapons out of the hands of anyone other than some rogue country. The idea is if you happen to be the leaders of any normal or rogue country, you are likely to be well off enough to think twice before attacking another country with kind of NBC or similar weapon(s), because it is all but a given that they will do the same. The only problem with this type of MAD mindset is that it only works until it doesn't and then the you know what really hits the fan.

Take for example the Ebola outbreak in Africa a few years ago. Although it was contained after a six month and I believe only a few hundred thousand people from developing countries died from it (as opposed to a few hundred thousand people from Europe and the US), what would have happen if some terrorist organization decided to obtain a sample of said virus and tried to spread it around the world to as many countries as they could? While it is a given that such a pandemic would likely spread to even their country and potentially kill several of the people they love (assuming such terrorist have relatives), they might still be willing to carry out such a attack and experience such 'collateral damage' if the reward of such actions allowed them to damage Western societies as much as one would expect such pandemics would. As it has been often said, 'biological weapons' are the poor man's nuclear bomb.
10 hours ago #32
dclements Member
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Some more useful 9/11 videos:

Unusual activities at the world trade center before 911

Demolition Expert Debunks the Debunkers
9 hours ago #33
dclements Member
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(10 hours ago)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  Old Anti-War poster from Viet Nam Era :::::::::::::::

" what if they gave a War , and no body Came ? "

it might be , that the Bush/Cheney Gig , may turn out to be the events
that cause the U.S. Citizens to make that dream a reality ,,,

Pfft , Nah .
They'll just use the sons of Immigrants instead .

something just lit up a light in my mind ,,,
so that's why the Borders have Hung open for 50 years !

~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rome , 200 ad ~~~~~~~~~~~

Where I live is pretty close to a naval base and there use to me this handicap guy who fought in Vietnam who would go to to the main gate, to protest wars as well as the existence of the military industrial who seem to 'thrive' off the existence of such wars. He did this for many, many years until I believe the tumors in his mind/body (which he told me he got from being exposed to chemicals during his time in service) killed him. I agreed with him that there should be either little to no wars ever fought, but my Machiavellian side too easily points out that this is a non-trivial problem much like ending poverty/drug abuse/disease/racism/etc. are also not that easy to solve.

I do agree with you on one thing..if more of my fellow americans would open their eyes and do some better critical thinking I believe that would solve some of the problem. Another thing that might help is if people like Bush. Cheney, and other profiteers of war had to experience many of the horrors of war instead of hiding in the equivalent of some ivory tower as part of the price of them profiting from war. However the latter often does work since commanders/generals are usually so far from actual fighting that they have little idea of what is going on (much like how the rich have little idea how the poor/working class have to live without) as well as the problem that it is not uncommon for someone who has actually fought in the trenches to somehow loses their capacity for human empathy when they are finally given power, such as it seems happened to Hitler and some other leaders who were not brought up by rich parents.

Oddly enough, the world has experienced relative 'peace' since WWII/development of atomic weapons since few powerful (as well as not powerful) countries can plan on what to do if a war ever gets big enough to go nuclear. Because of this most wars are merely some kind of proxy or minor war where two major powers never really confront each other or one side doesn't have NBC type weapons.



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