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Washington DC was previously called Rome, and other odd details
11-16-2012, 07:56 AM #1
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First Skippy pointed out here earlier that Washington DC was originally called Rome but I decided to continue a bit more on this.

Rome Maryland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_Maryland

In 1663, the property that would become the Capitol's site was inscribed in the Maryland property records as “Rome,” its owner a man named Francis Pope. The southern boundary of this property was shaped by Tiber Creek named for the river that runs through Rome, Italy, the Tiber.

Of additional note is the following

On July 9, 1790, Congress passed the Residence Act, which approved the creation of a national capital on the Potomac River. The exact location was to be selected by President George Washington, who signed the bill into law on July 16. Formed from land donated by the states of Maryland and Virginia, the initial shape of the federal district was a square measuring 10 miles (16 km) on each side

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.#History

So VIRGIN-ia Mary-land

The priest of Francis Pope the original land owner was a man named Andrew White.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Whit...sionary%29

Could Andrew "White" be who the White House was named for?

Just like Rome Italy

Washington DC, or Rome Maryland may sit on 7 hills as well

Washington D.C. has 7 hills, whose names are: Capitol Hill, Meridian Hill, Floral Hills, Forest Hills, Hillbrook, Hillcrest, and Knox Hill.

Other details of interest include this from the following link

http://genforum.genealogy.com/pope/messages/3903.html

I have done extensive research on the beginnings of Washington, DC as my Burnes family owned much of the old downtown are of present-day Washington, DC. While conducting this research, I came across Francis Pope, one of the original owners of the land that became Washington, DC. Not only are we connected in that way, but Francis's wife, Margaret Porter, is probably the sister of another ancestor, Johanna Porter, the second wife of John Neville, who came to America on The Ark and The Dove. Below is from, "Original Patentees of Land at Washington," by Bessie Wilmarth Gahn:

"No. 7. Francis Pope, owner of "Rome" on the Tyber,
June 5, 1663.

Here is a stunner.

"Moore writes of the Capital, not the Capitol! Perhaps he had never heard of Francis Pope, for certainly he would have mentioned "the Pope at Rome," or something to that effect in his verses. Yet, the popular interpretation has rooled on through the years, and many followers of the romantic now actually are convinced that Pope's "Rome" was on the site where our Nation's Capital Building now stands."

I'll close with a poem

"In fancy, now, beneath the twilight gloom,
Come, let me lead thee o'er the second Rome
Where tribunes rule, where dusky Davi* bow,
And what was Goose creek once is Tiber now;
This embryo Capital, where fancy sees
Squares in morasses, oblelisks in trees
Which second-sighted seers, even now adorn
With shrines unbuilt and heroes yet unborn."

Tom Moore
11-16-2012, 11:35 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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That's very interesting.

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Considering we have three really influential power centers in the world considered to be city states; Washington DC, City of London and the Vatican I'm not really surprised.

http://www.thehalsreport.com/2010/07/d-c...the-world/
11-17-2012, 12:48 AM #3
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(11-16-2012, 07:56 AM)blind prophet Wrote:  First Skippy pointed out here earlier that Washington DC was originally called Rome but I decided to continue a bit more on this.

Rome Maryland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_Maryland

In 1663, the property that would become the Capitol's site was inscribed in the Maryland property records as “Rome,” its owner a man named Francis Pope. The southern boundary of this property was shaped by Tiber Creek named for the river that runs through Rome, Italy, the Tiber.

Of additional note is the following

On July 9, 1790, Congress passed the Residence Act, which approved the creation of a national capital on the Potomac River. The exact location was to be selected by President George Washington, who signed the bill into law on July 16. Formed from land donated by the states of Maryland and Virginia, the initial shape of the federal district was a square measuring 10 miles (16 km) on each side

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.#History

So VIRGIN-ia Mary-land

The priest of Francis Pope the original land owner was a man named Andrew White.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Whit...sionary%29

Could Andrew "White" be who the White House was named for?

Just like Rome Italy

Washington DC, or Rome Maryland may sit on 7 hills as well

Washington D.C. has 7 hills, whose names are: Capitol Hill, Meridian Hill, Floral Hills, Forest Hills, Hillbrook, Hillcrest, and Knox Hill.

Other details of interest include this from the following link

http://genforum.genealogy.com/pope/messages/3903.html

I have done extensive research on the beginnings of Washington, DC as my Burnes family owned much of the old downtown are of present-day Washington, DC. While conducting this research, I came across Francis Pope, one of the original owners of the land that became Washington, DC. Not only are we connected in that way, but Francis's wife, Margaret Porter, is probably the sister of another ancestor, Johanna Porter, the second wife of John Neville, who came to America on The Ark and The Dove. Below is from, "Original Patentees of Land at Washington," by Bessie Wilmarth Gahn:

"No. 7. Francis Pope, owner of "Rome" on the Tyber,
June 5, 1663.

Here is a stunner.

"Moore writes of the Capital, not the Capitol! Perhaps he had never heard of Francis Pope, for certainly he would have mentioned "the Pope at Rome," or something to that effect in his verses. Yet, the popular interpretation has rooled on through the years, and many followers of the romantic now actually are convinced that Pope's "Rome" was on the site where our Nation's Capital Building now stands."

I'll close with a poem

"In fancy, now, beneath the twilight gloom,
Come, let me lead thee o'er the second Rome
Where tribunes rule, where dusky Davi* bow,
And what was Goose creek once is Tiber now;
This embryo Capital, where fancy sees
Squares in morasses, oblelisks in trees
Which second-sighted seers, even now adorn
With shrines unbuilt and heroes yet unborn."

Tom Moore


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11-17-2012, 12:59 AM #4
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Surprised it wasn't called the New City of London, but that may have thrown the "revolutionary war" into question eh?

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11-17-2012, 01:01 AM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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They should have called it Loldon to evade any suspicions. 13.gif
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11-17-2012, 01:39 AM #6
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Part 1




Quote:On June 19 2011 Bill was gunned down and murdered by page public servant Shawn WIlson.

The District of Columbia Act of 1871

Initial review of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 seems like it only sets up a local government (like Chicago or Seattle); how do you get that they formed a private corporation?

If you take the Act out of its historical context and, from the present looking to the past, imagine who the parties involved are, we might agree. However, we cannot do that; to best understand what really happened we follow our:


Standard for Review
Rule 1: To understand any relationship you must:
1. First understand who the parties are;
a. Always know yourself first
b. Discover the true nature of all other parties second
2. Then you must understand the environmental nature of the relationship; and,
3. Only then do the actual terms of the relationship begin to have meaning and bearing on the relationship.
Rule 2: To have any hope of understanding any particular situation in any relationship you must have first applied Rule 1, only then do the details of the situation in question have any meaning; therefore, review such details in accord with Rule 1 as well.

Thus, to understand the parties involved in the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871, we must first understand who the parties are involved in the relationship described by the Act. We are not here going to delve into the Act in its entirety, suffice it to say, looking over the situation we find the Act is one made by the original jurisdiction Congress, set by the Constitution for the United States of America. The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 describes its venue as: "all that part of the territory of the United States included within the limits of the District of Columbia". The District of Columbia was originally provided for in the Constitution for the United States of America (9-17-1787) at Article 1 Section 8, specifically in the last two clauses. Then, on July 16, 1790, in accord with the provisions of those clauses, the Territory was formed in the District of Columbia Act, wherein the "ten mile square" territory was permanently created and made the permanent location of the country's government, that is to say, the "territory" includes the actual government. Under the Act Congress also made the President the civic leader of the local government in all matters in said Territory. Then on February 27, 1801, under the second District of Columbia Act, two counties were formed and their respective officers and district judges were appointed. Further, the established town governments of Alexandria, Georgetown and Washington were recognized as constituted and placed under the laws of the District, its judges, etc. The United States Supreme Court has repeatedly called this act the "District of Columbia Organization Act" or the "Charter Act of the District of Columbia" and recognized it as the incorporation of the "municipality" known as the "District of Columbia". Then on March 3, 1801 a Supplementary Act to that last Act, noted here, added the authority that the Marshals appointed by the respective District Court Judges collectively form a County Commission with the authority to appoint all officers as may be needed in similarity to the respective State officials in the states whence the counties Washington and Alexandria came, those being Maryland and Virginia, respectively.

According to the United States Supreme Court those charter acts (first acts) were the official incorporation of the formal government of the District of Columbia as chartered by Congress in accord with the Constitution's provision. Again, the Supreme Court called that body of government "a corporation", with the right to sue and be sued. Since 1801 The District of Columbia has been consistently recognized as a "municipal corporation" with its own government.

Congress wrote:
That all that part of the territory of the United States included within the limits of the District of Columbia be, and the same is hereby, created into a government by the name of the District of Columbia, by which name it is hereby constituted a body corporate for municipal purposes ... and exercise all other powers of a municipal corporation

11-17-2012, 02:02 AM #7
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