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03-27-2016, 10:58 PM #46
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(03-27-2016, 10:53 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(03-27-2016, 10:22 PM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(03-27-2016, 10:17 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(03-27-2016, 10:04 PM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(03-27-2016, 08:00 AM)AC Wrote:  Circumcision has never been mandatory in any US state.

The CDC, in the last year, simply parroted the AAP's line on circumcision. The AAP is basically the US trade association of pediatricians.

The overwhelming consensus in western medicine, is that not only is routine infant circumcision unnecessary, it's actually constitutes harm.




Circumcision:
Medical Organization Official Policy Statements

http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/

Circumcision was mandatory in the State of West Virginia, at least.



That is not correct, although I will quadruple check that claim and get back to you. I cannot say that I am 100% correct, but I'll check and see.


It is quite interesting that you mention that, because West Virginia currently has the highest RIC(Routine Infant Circumcision) rate in the US, at around 85-86%.

It was 86%, as of six years ago, it might be at 85% by now, because the national, consistent downward trend in RIC has been impacting West Virginias numbers in the present day, only proportionately less than other state RIC rates.

If it's not correct, my parents have some 'splainin' to do


It's possible that your parents were lied to. It's happened many times. It happens frequently (docs and nurses in hospitals, lying in some capacity about 'circumcision').

It really is a crap-shoot in 2015, in terms of whether you will retain your entire penis and the most important factor/demographic of all is WHERE you will be born a boy in the US.

If a boy's parents are 'on the fence' so to speak about whether or not they will cut their baby boy and are awaiting a physician's advice, statistically speaking, that boy has almost 8 times more of a chance of leaving the hospital with his whole penis, than he would in a hospital in West Virginia.


I meant to state that ia boy in a Washington State hospital would have almost an 8 times better chance of retaining his whole penis when he left the hospital, than a baby boy would in West Virginia.



Washington State RIC rate is approx. 11%

West Virginia RIC rate is approx. 785-86%
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
03-27-2016, 11:03 PM #47
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(03-27-2016, 10:57 PM)Jim Rat Wrote:  Wall of text.

Whenever I see a wall of text I just go outside and look at the flowers, wave.gif



Then don't read it. I just happened to find it, while searching for the validity of your claim, which btw was incorrect because either your parents lied to you because they were too uncomfortable with discusssing it with you or they were lied to by a US $$$$-doctor-$$$$.

It's not a wall of text, if you're not attempting to block it out.
Electric shock Show this Post
03-28-2016, 01:13 AM #48
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(03-26-2016, 09:21 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(03-26-2016, 06:47 PM)AC Wrote:  
(03-26-2016, 06:44 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH


And you posted two fail links.



The URL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwZiQyFaAs0



This is only the third time that I've posted here, since it's inception

I meant in your op. You posted two links and neither one worked.

I just don't see why people make such a big deal out of circumcision. I'm circumcised. I don't remember it happening. It hasn't ruined my life. Frankly, I'm glad I am. I would rather be circumcised than have a penis that looks like a shrew in a skin parka.

Just sayin...

coffeetime.gif

right on. im circumcised too..hasnt ruined my life either
03-28-2016, 01:56 AM #49
Octo Mother Superior
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(03-27-2016, 10:57 PM)Jim Rat Wrote:  Wall of text.

Whenever I see a wall of text I just go outside and look at the flowers, wave.gif

Something tells me you don't know Carol damned.gif

İmage
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
03-28-2016, 03:33 AM #50
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(03-28-2016, 01:13 AM)Electric shock Wrote:  
(03-26-2016, 09:21 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(03-26-2016, 06:47 PM)AC Wrote:  
(03-26-2016, 06:44 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH


And you posted two fail links.



The URL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwZiQyFaAs0



This is only the third time that I've posted here, since it's inception

I meant in your op. You posted two links and neither one worked.

I just don't see why people make such a big deal out of circumcision. I'm circumcised. I don't remember it happening. It hasn't ruined my life. Frankly, I'm glad I am. I would rather be circumcised than have a penis that looks like a shrew in a skin parka.

Just sayin...

coffeetime.gif

right on. im circumcised too..hasnt ruined my life either



No one says it had to and there was no reason that you needed to be subjected to it and had the most sensitive and sexually functional part of your penis stolen either.

The entire point of all this, is people should be able to decide whether or not they want to keep all of their genitals.

The "I'm circumcised and I'm fine" rationalization is no excuse to have one's son mutilated and if you claim that 'circumcision' doesn't constitute harm and a sexual diminishment of the person who was 'circumcised', then you are being wilfully ignorant of anatomical fact.


It's not the family penis. A penis belongs to the person who physically possesses it.
03-28-2016, 05:45 AM #51
Jim Rat Member
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(03-27-2016, 11:03 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(03-27-2016, 10:57 PM)Jim Rat Wrote:  Wall of text.

Whenever I see a wall of text I just go outside and look at the flowers, wave.gif



Then don't read it. I just happened to find it, while searching for the validity of your claim, which btw was incorrect because either your parents lied to you because they were too uncomfortable with discusssing it with you or they were lied to by a US $$$$-doctor-$$$$.

It's not a wall of text, if you're not attempting to block it out.

Well, since I was a newborn at that time they probably didn't consider discussing it with me (ageists, no doubt). As a matter of fact, you have spoken more about my penis than anyone else has.

And I'm not attempting to "block it out" I just don't read boring walls of text. It's one of my endearing characteristics.
03-28-2016, 05:55 AM #52
Jim Rat Member
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See, you're doing it again; just as you've done in all your other incarnations. You're expressing your opinion as if it were fact and then getting upset with anyone who disagrees with your opinion.

This is what I was on about when I was talking about your EXPERTS against other EXPERTS. Everyone has their own EXPERTS.

I look at flowers. Therefore your point is invalid.
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
03-28-2016, 08:25 AM #53
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(03-28-2016, 05:45 AM)Jim Rat Wrote:  
(03-27-2016, 11:03 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(03-27-2016, 10:57 PM)Jim Rat Wrote:  Wall of text.

Whenever I see a wall of text I just go outside and look at the flowers, wave.gif



Then don't read it. I just happened to find it, while searching for the validity of your claim, which btw was incorrect because either your parents lied to you because they were too uncomfortable with discusssing it with you or they were lied to by a US $$$$-doctor-$$$$.

It's not a wall of text, if you're not attempting to block it out.

Well, since I was a newborn at that time they probably didn't consider discussing it with me (ageists, no doubt). As a matter of fact, you have spoken more about my penis than anyone else has.

And I'm not attempting to "block it out" I just don't read boring walls of text. It's one of my endearing characteristics.

No, simply idiotic assholes for thinking that butchering their son's penis was an ok thing to do and then to lie to your face on top of it and give you some bullshit, lame explanation as that it was "mandatory".


That's really the whole point. Your genitals should have been left alone, because they are your genitals, not your mother's or your father's.. unless it was a genuine medical emergency in which 'circumcision' was the only efficacious, therapeutic remedy and then your parents could have consented to the procedure. That's what the Hippocratic Oath is all about.


Do you honestly believe that if your penis was simply left alone, some horrible fate would have befell you, because if you do, then that is the same line of 'thinking' that religious people use in order to justify mutilating their children's genitals and it's also referred to as superstition.


Honestly, if you do, then you truly are superstitious and believe the fear mongering of American for-profit medical quackery, which profited from stealing the best part of your penis from you
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
03-28-2016, 08:29 AM #54
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(03-28-2016, 05:55 AM)Jim Rat Wrote:  See, you're doing it again; just as you've done in all your other incarnations. You're expressing your opinion as if it were fact and then getting upset with anyone who disagrees with your opinion.

This is what I was on about when I was talking about your EXPERTS against other EXPERTS. Everyone has their own EXPERTS.

I look at flowers. Therefore your point is invalid.


Examine the epistemology, which is derived the epidemiological evidence of non-circumcising 1st World nations.

The evidence is clear and men aren't walking around with a host of penis problems from not being intact and they are getting laid. It's been that way for hundreds of thousands of years.
03-28-2016, 09:00 AM #55
Jim Rat Member
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(03-28-2016, 01:56 AM)Octo Wrote:  
(03-27-2016, 10:57 PM)Jim Rat Wrote:  Wall of text.

Whenever I see a wall of text I just go outside and look at the flowers, wave.gif

Something tells me you don't know Carol damned.gif

İmage

Looks like I've missed my chance. She's leaving. Again.
03-28-2016, 04:17 PM #56
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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The truth is that societal programming and religious dogma linger within this practice. For a thinking person as myself, I make my own decisions throughout life. So when my son was born, the doctor came to me and asked me if I wanted my son circumcised, I responded that nature made him as such and who were we to change that!(?) No reply from the doc on that. Now that my son is a man, he did ask me why I opted out, because every other man in his life is circumcised, and, so, I explained it exactly as I did to the doc. Again, no response.

"All my parts have purpose".

http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/functions...es-of.html



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