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We have a Wolf Problem. UPDATE! 2 wolves down
03-05-2018, 04:59 PM #1
Octo Mother Superior
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Never in my life have I had to be worried about wolves in the woods, but things are escalating quickly here. I can't really find any news articles in English so I'll just have to tell you about it.

The Wolf is considered a threatened species and hunting is heavily regulated. Illegally shooting a wolf is about as serious crime as killing a human.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_wolf

This wikipedia map is untrue, we're supposedly in an area (on the west coast in Finland) without wolves.

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These wolves that now roam the land are fearless of humans, my coworker found one standing in the yard one morning. Another coworker said something spooked the (hunting) dogs in the middle of the night last week and sure enough they found wolf tracks around the perimeter.

A week ago a fur farm about 3 km from us had a visit by 3 wolves and 5 foxes were killed, basically ripped piece by piece through the cage floor  damned.gif

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People are upset, not wanting kids to play outside etc. Hunters have been out trying to scare them off, but it's not working. Politicians in Helsinki are not really interested in doing anything as it probably looks good on paper that the wolf population is thriving.

In 2016, 119 sheep, 7 calves, 1 cow, 47 dogs and 647 reindeer were killed by wolves. And now today I hear they've been sneaking around even closer to town. They're probably using the river to scout for food (the river is frozen) and they're often seen on the ice off the coast.

Today hunters got a permit to kill one of them. Folks doubt it's going to be enough  13.gif
03-05-2018, 05:22 PM #2
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Approximately 1 km (.62 miles+/-) from our house, I was walking our terrier and spotted unusually large prints, and several of them.
The path they took would take them from very close to town all the way out to the fox farm where they went on a killing spree.
I'm going to steer clear of the area until the snow melts.
A cold winter withe a lot of snow is known here as wolf winter.

I'm getting our dog a disguise so they will leave us alone...

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03-05-2018, 06:01 PM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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03-05-2018, 06:53 PM #4
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Quote:A week ago a fur farm about 3 km from us had a visit by 3 wolves and 5 foxes were killed, basically ripped piece by piece through the cage floor

damned.gif Stay out of their way you guys. What a horrible way to die, eaten alive in a cage I've never heard of such a thing.
03-05-2018, 07:11 PM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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Yes it's horrific. 2 of the foxes were dead as doornails while 3 were still alive, albeit eaten... damned.gif Now the hunt begins.
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03-05-2018, 07:21 PM #6
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That's disturbing, are open bottom cages normal?
03-05-2018, 07:26 PM #7
Octo Mother Superior
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Yes they are, I've never seen any other than that variety sad2.gif
03-05-2018, 08:19 PM #8
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It's cruel, those cages have to hurt their feet, but not half as much as the wolves did.
I could not be a part of that, they look just like dogs, they import Ukrainians to skin them, not many takers on that gig.

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03-06-2018, 12:25 AM #9
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hmn..Antifreeze set in heavy lg bowl/pail/bucket or whathaveyou by their tracks/route as long as any other smaller animal or domesticated animal won't get to it
use something old that looks like it was left there thru time
oh & don't leave fingerprints behind chuckle.gif

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03-06-2018, 01:10 AM #10
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Put some meteorite fragments on the paths, they'll kill anything, or so it seems.
03-06-2018, 01:16 AM #11
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(03-05-2018, 04:59 PM)Octo Wrote:  Never in my life have I had to be worried about wolves in the woods, but things are escalating quickly here. I can't really find any news articles in English so I'll just have to tell you about it.

The Wolf is considered a threatened species and hunting is heavily regulated. Illegally shooting a wolf is about as serious crime as killing a human.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_wolf

This wikipedia map is untrue, we're supposedly in an area (on the west coast in Finland) without wolves.

[Image: Gray_Wolf_Distribution.gif]

These wolves that now roam the land are fearless of humans, my coworker found one standing in the yard one morning. Another coworker said something spooked the (hunting) dogs in the middle of the night last week and sure enough they found wolf tracks around the perimeter.

A week ago a fur farm about 3 km from us had a visit by 3 wolves and 5 foxes were killed, basically ripped piece by piece through the cage floor  damned.gif

[Image: iXi0AQdW52Iu.JPG]

People are upset, not wanting kids to play outside etc. Hunters have been out trying to scare them off, but it's not working. Politicians in Helsinki are not really interested in doing anything as it probably looks good on paper that the wolf population is thriving.

In 2016, 119 sheep, 7 calves, 1 cow, 47 dogs and 647 reindeer were killed by wolves. And now today I hear they've been sneaking around even closer to town. They're probably using the river to scout for food (the river is frozen) and they're often seen on the ice off the coast.

Today hunters got a permit to kill one of them. Folks doubt it's going to be enough  13.gif

There are a lot more wolves in the US than they admit. Coyotes are a problem in a lot of areas also. Mountain lions/cougars are also far more widespread than the wildlife officials will admit. Black bears are another problem they only admit partly.

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03-06-2018, 01:37 AM #12
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Quote:There are a lot more wolves in the US than they admit. Coyotes are a problem in a lot of areas also. Mountain lions/cougars are also far more widespread than the wildlife officials will admit. Black bears are another problem they only admit partly.
Bobcats too apparently..which i found out while running into one unexpectedly a few years back
Hybrid bears is another one & have also run into them

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03-06-2018, 07:25 AM #13
Octo Mother Superior
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There are rumors and speculation these wolves are in fact wolf/dog hybrids. There's a flock of those a bit north of here and they would be less shy that regular wolves they say. 13.gif
03-06-2018, 07:33 AM #14
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(03-06-2018, 07:25 AM)Octo Wrote:  There are rumors and speculation these wolves are in fact wolf/dog hybrids. There's a flock of those a bit north of here and they would be less shy that regular wolves they say.  13.gif

Don't make them welcome around where you live, walk and explore...make them feel very unwelcome with lots of noise.
03-06-2018, 07:35 AM #15
Octo Mother Superior
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That's what our hunters have been doing for the last few weeks. It's not working.



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