(04-06-2018, 08:56 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  

(04-06-2018, 08:46 PM)RiskyRob Wrote:  

(04-06-2018, 08:34 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Been around coyotes in the upper Midwest, when they are adults, they are normally a bit larger than most dogs, so I know first hand they can be intimidating as hell, especially if they are shadowing you.
We have a Jack Russell that needs a lot of exercise, but we've had to curtail the country walks in favor of town walks with poop bags. *sigh*
As you can imagine, I'm ready for spring, these so called "wolf winters" in Finland make you a bit uptight, always looking over your shoulder.

An adult human is probably not at risk from wolves, but livestock and pets definitely are. Our coyotes are not large, and luckily my male dog is a large Australian shepherd with an instinctual antipathy towards coyotes.

So I've read, but the hybrid possibility makes one think twice.
While walking our dog I encountered tracks that were unmistakable, and there appeared to be several of them.
This was just a couple days prior to the fox incident.
It was a straight shot to the fox farm where they ate through the bottom of the cage.

It's said that a coyote-dog hybrid is more dangerous because they have less fear of humans. I suppose a wolf-dog hybrid is also. I knew a guy that had a wolfdog as a pet. Big mistake. Very dangerous and difficult to manage.

Best to stick with regular dogs, but even they can be unpredictable at times.

(04-06-2018, 10:44 PM)Meh Wrote:  Best to stick with regular dogs, but even they can be unpredictable at times.

Yeah, wolf-dogs are banned in some localities, even though the pet variety is usually about 25% wolf. They're beautiful but often too wild.

There's always those pitbull stories where they snap and kill somebody, but I'd rather have one of those than anything with wolf.

They are killing machines, give way.

(04-07-2018, 04:04 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  They are killing machines, give way.

That's a little dramatic. Wolves and wolf hybrids are wild animals.

(04-07-2018, 04:25 AM)RiskyRob Wrote:  

(04-07-2018, 04:04 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  They are killing machines, give way.

That's a little dramatic. Wolves and wolf hybrids are wild animals.

Your reply is a little naive. Give way, keep out of their way.

(04-07-2018, 04:28 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  

(04-07-2018, 04:25 AM)RiskyRob Wrote:  

(04-07-2018, 04:04 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  They are killing machines, give way.

That's a little dramatic. Wolves and wolf hybrids are wild animals.

Your reply is a little naive. Give way, keep out of their way.

(04-07-2018, 04:28 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  

(04-07-2018, 04:25 AM)RiskyRob Wrote:  

(04-07-2018, 04:04 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  They are killing machines, give way.

That's a little dramatic. Wolves and wolf hybrids are wild animals.

Your reply is a little naive. Give way, keep out of their way.

(04-07-2018, 06:09 AM)RiskyRob Wrote:  

(04-07-2018, 04:28 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  

(04-07-2018, 04:25 AM)RiskyRob Wrote:  [quote='UniqueStranger' pid='312221' dateline='1523063069']
They are killing machines, give way.

That's a little dramatic. Wolves and wolf hybrids are wild animals.

Your reply is a little naive. Give way, keep out of their way.

A wolf is not a "killing machine". That's stupid talk.

A killing machine is a bit dramatic. I'm far more frightened of bears.

(04-07-2018, 04:25 AM)RiskyRob Wrote:  

(04-07-2018, 04:04 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  They are killing machines, give way.

That's a little dramatic. Wolves and wolf hybrids are wild animals.

Difference is that wolves are protected animals and hybrids are not.

A more common sense approach here

Quote:Romania to kill bears, wolves after rise in attacks

Romania on Monday said it would kill or relocate 140 bears and 97 wolves following a rise in the number of attacks on humans, sparking outrage from animal rights groups.

The measures aim to "prevent important damages and protect public health and safety", the environment ministry said in a statement.

A government-appointed commission of scientists backed the move, saying that it did not "endanger the conservation of these two species".

The decision to let the authorities carry out the killings also "prevents trophy hunting", according to the experts.

But the World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) strongly denounced the measure and blamed the issue on deforestation.

More @: https://phys.org/news/2017-09-romania-wolves.html#jCp

They are around my area and have occasionally killed chickens, sheep and dogs, but there hasn't been any deforestation  in the area. I've been told that if a farmer should see them, they are going to meet with a bullet, they are not the tree hugging types.
Is deforestation an issue where you guys live?

Forestry industry is big in Finland of course, but that's not what's causing this issue. We have enormous amounts of wild forests and the wolves are now roaming farm country on the coast where people live.

Quote: Finland is Europe's most heavily-forested country. Forests as defined by the FAO cover 23 million hectares or 74.2% of the land area.

In Europe, Finland is a "forest giant", there being over sixteen times more forest per capita than in European countries on average. Finland's forests have been intensively harvested over the last few decades. Despite the loss of land after the last wars, its forest reserves are now greater than ever before in the 20th century, and they are continuing to grow.

http://www.borealforest.org/world/world_finland.htm

Keep us informed Octo and Jay And stay safe.