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We have a Wolf Problem. UPDATE! 2 wolves down
03-08-2018, 04:01 PM #46
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(03-07-2018, 06:08 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Oh yeah, invasive species are a big problem everywhere... in some cases, like bunny's in Helsinki, it's not a real big deal, but they planted Melaleuca trees (tea tree, paper bark) in Florida, and it created all kinds of problems drying up habitat.
The Brazilian peppers there are really bad as well, choking out all native vegetation.

Lots of that going on. Several fish species in Florida, Cudzu, fish species other places, Pythons in So Flo, Lion fish, carp, etc.

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
03-08-2018, 04:38 PM #47
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(03-08-2018, 03:12 PM)Strigoi Wrote:  damned.gif  Those tracks are awfully large. The closest they get is about 10 clicks from here. A friend said the old folks have ways of keeping them away, I'll look into that. I'm not sure what it is they do.

Please do, they should know something about it, heck - all the werewolf stories come from that neck of the woods. chuckle.gif

(03-08-2018, 04:01 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(03-07-2018, 06:08 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Oh yeah, invasive species are a big problem everywhere... in some cases, like bunny's in Helsinki, it's not a real big deal, but they planted Melaleuca trees (tea tree, paper bark) in Florida, and it created all kinds of problems drying up habitat.
The Brazilian peppers there are really bad as well, choking out all native vegetation.

Lots of that going on. Several fish species in Florida, Cudzu, fish species other places, Pythons in So Flo, Lion fish, carp, etc.

Oh yeah, and it's only getting worse.
Those nasty ass Asian cockroaches are big as jumbo shrimp.

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03-08-2018, 04:47 PM #48
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I didn't know they were such a problem in parts of Europe. Keep us all updated. cheers.gif
03-08-2018, 06:26 PM #49
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(03-07-2018, 06:08 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Oh yeah, invasive species are a big problem everywhere... in some cases, like bunny's in Helsinki, it's not a real big deal, but they planted Melaleuca trees (tea tree, paper bark) in Florida, and it created all kinds of problems drying up habitat.
The Brazilian peppers there are really bad as well, choking out all native vegetation.

Lots of that going on. Several fish species in Florida, Cudzu, fish species other places, Pythons in So Flo, Lion fish, carp, etc.

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
03-08-2018, 06:28 PM #50
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I've read that somewhere before... hmm.gif

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03-08-2018, 06:50 PM #51
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What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
03-08-2018, 06:52 PM #52
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(03-08-2018, 04:47 PM)Sandy Wrote:  I didn't know they were such a problem in parts of Europe. Keep us all updated.  cheers.gif

The problem used to be that they were almost extinct, but as a protected species it's come back. During prosperous years the wolf population can triple. There's lots of hunters around here so I know this will be dealt with.
It's obviously a hot local topic so I'll definitely keep you updated.

As far as "dealing with it" in any manner that is illegal, I won't be sharing any information. I know how they deal with it in Lapland where Sami herd their reindeer. They have no wolf problem. 13.gif
03-08-2018, 06:56 PM #53
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We have both Eurasian and North American beavers  13.gif  


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Some Eurasian beavers are present in Finland, but most of the Finnish population is a released population of C. canadensis, the North American species. (These animals were imported to Finland in 1937, when it was not yet known that C. canadensis was a different species from the Eurasian beaver.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_beaver

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03-08-2018, 07:50 PM #54
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(03-08-2018, 06:50 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  wtf2.gif

blink.gif What happened there?
03-08-2018, 07:51 PM #55
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(03-08-2018, 06:56 PM)Octo Wrote:  We have both Eurasian and North American beavers  13.gif  


[Image: Biber_in_Europa_2003.jpg]

Some Eurasian beavers are present in Finland, but most of the Finnish population is a released population of C. canadensis, the North American species. (These animals were imported to Finland in 1937, when it was not yet known that C. canadensis was a different species from the Eurasian beaver.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_beaver

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North American only here, but definite European ancestry. chuckle.gif
03-08-2018, 08:34 PM #56
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(03-08-2018, 07:50 PM)Meh Wrote:  
(03-08-2018, 06:50 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  wtf2.gif

blink.gif  What happened there?

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03-08-2018, 08:47 PM #57
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(03-08-2018, 06:52 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(03-08-2018, 04:47 PM)Sandy Wrote:  I didn't know they were such a problem in parts of Europe. Keep us all updated.  cheers.gif

The problem used to be that they were almost extinct, but as a protected species it's come back. During prosperous years the wolf population can triple. There's lots of hunters around here so I know this will be dealt with.
It's obviously a hot local topic so I'll definitely keep you updated.

As far as "dealing with it" in any manner that is illegal, I won't be sharing any information. I know how they deal with it in Lapland where Sami herd their reindeer. They have no wolf problem.  13.gif
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I know nothing......
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03-08-2018, 10:41 PM #58
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Wolfbane them.

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03-08-2018, 10:59 PM #59
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03-09-2018, 12:52 AM #60
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(03-06-2018, 07:25 AM)Octo Wrote:  There are rumors and speculation these wolves are in fact wolf/dog hybrids. There's a flock of those a bit north of here and they would be less shy that regular wolves they say.  13.gif
Speaking of hybrids..
hybrid wolves:

New STUDY shows the GRAY WOLF is the only true WOLF species in NORTH​ AMERICA
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– A new study shows that the various wolf species we know in North America all link back to the gray wolf, and this is the continent’s only true wolf species. The finding could completely change how the Endangered Species Act is used to protect species. A team of researchers analyzed the genomes of 12 pure gray wolves and three coyotes from areas where the two species do not overlap. They also analyzed the genomes of six Eastern wolves and three red wolves. What they found is that the two latter species are actually genetic hybrids of the two former species. “We found that the red wolves are about 75 percent coyote ancestry, and the Eastern wolf has more gray wolf ancestry, about 75 percent,” Robert Wayne, an evolutionary biologist at UCLA
https://naturalunseenhazards.wordpress.c...ming-sout/
https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animal...-new-study
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early one morning:
i had a full on run in with a gray wolf/also called timber wolf around here
..twas impressive in size,thick fur,heavy solid build,bigger than a german shepherd dog which suprised me
..twas a long moment with it staring right at me,close:time stood still-till it decided to go it's own way
..probably cuz it heard the german shepherds suddenly barking in the background from the house
..they couldn't see the wolf, but they knew it was there.

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