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We have a Wolf Problem. UPDATE! 2 wolves down
03-13-2018, 11:12 PM #121
Octo Mother Superior
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The wolf that was killed here this past Saturday was autopsied today. It was a normal but skinny male, 130 cm (length) and 38.5 kilos (85 pounds), about 2-3 years old. A lone wolf so to speak, probably alpha male potential and therefore excluded. His belly was full so he wasn't hungry when he was sneaking around the neighborhood. It contained skin with fur, a 2 cm claw and a long whisker. This is what the veterinary reporting finding and won't speculate on what it ate. There's no indication that this is a hybrid.

There are pictures, but I'm not sure those are necessary.
03-15-2018, 07:16 PM #122
US nli Incognito
 
(03-12-2018, 08:54 PM)DiggerDawg Wrote:  
(03-12-2018, 03:15 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(03-12-2018, 07:11 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(03-11-2018, 07:45 PM)Octo Wrote:  That's nice. 15.gif

Anyway, I found a quote from an article published in a newspaper in Finland June 17, 1877.

Translated by Octo:

Quote:What kind of a country is it where wolves eat children? What kind of people allow such abominations to happen three consecutive weeks: One week in Birtala, next week in Ylöjärwi and the third week in Tawastkyrö? Is it a country, is it a people that consider themselves part of the civilized world? Does this country and its people not know that when it happens the first time it's an accident, the second time it's a crime and the third time it's a stain of shame.

http://www.nanomatic.fi/allwolf/vargen/index.html

Yeah, I am not yet moved out into my new home where the coyote roam and my sis is letting her cats roam free. I gotta get my self there quick.

No need to spay your cats in those places. The coyotes appreciate the snacks. When we lived in Wisconsin there was a farm cat that would have a couple of litters a year but there were only a couple of cats on the farm. The coyotes would eat the rest. Sad but it's nature.

They never seemed to mess with the adult cats. I wonder if it was because there was too much danger in messing with the adults? Or what if they were keeping the adults around to keep them producing the tasty tasty kitteh kibbles.

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Yes the full grown feral cat is very formidable, no matter how you grab them twist and tare the chit out of you on other animals they will go for the eyes plus most likely get infected from there scratch safer to go after the young

You may be right, because sis says a big male feral is now hanging around and he's surviving out there just fine from the looks of it.
03-15-2018, 07:18 PM #123
US nli Incognito
 
(03-13-2018, 11:12 PM)Octo Wrote:  The wolf that was killed here this past Saturday was autopsied today. It was a normal but skinny male, 130 cm (length) and 38.5 kilos (85 pounds), about 2-3 years old. A lone wolf so to speak, probably alpha male potential and therefore excluded. His belly was full so he wasn't hungry when he was sneaking around the neighborhood. It contained skin with fur, a 2 cm claw and a long whisker. This is what the veterinary reporting finding and won't speculate on what it ate. There's no indication that this is a hybrid.

There are pictures, but I'm not sure those are necessary.

I feel sorry for wildlife because survival is so difficult - "skinny male", probably starving to death.
03-15-2018, 07:54 PM #124
Octo Mother Superior
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I heard today that wolf tracks were found about a kilometer from our house... In fact right at the end of our road damned.gif
03-15-2018, 08:48 PM #125
US nli Incognito
 
Did anyone there bother to study whether or not these wolves have enough prey in the bush. Is there overhunting or something else (die-off from disease?) Why are the forced to travel into human populated areas?
03-16-2018, 01:31 PM #126
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bump for more wolf news. reading.gif
03-16-2018, 06:00 PM #127
Octo Mother Superior
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(03-15-2018, 08:48 PM)US nli Wrote:  Did anyone there bother to study whether or not these wolves have enough prey in the bush. Is there overhunting or something else (die-off from disease?) Why are the forced to travel into human populated areas?

Like I said about the autopsied wolf, its belly was full. He was a pretty big boy although pretty lean. I know I said skinny in that post, but lean is probably a better word. "He didn't have a thick layer of fat" is how it was put in the paper.

I'm certain there's no "overhunting". There are a lot of hunters here, sure, but it's a responsible and respected crowd and very organized. No signs of disease or anything out of the ordinary except the behavior of the wolves.

This is the time of year when wolves look for new territories. Game animals, especially moose, move towards towards the coast to have offspring in the spring and it's quite possible they're following those. It's just a very bad idea as the coastline is populated and is mainly farm country. Lots of rumors going around and it seems people commonly believe they have been released here on purpose.

The tracks found at the end of our road in my previous post were actually found by my brother I only heard today. I called him and he sent me some pics. He's a hunter too and he doesn't go out with his dogs without the shotgun.

I'll post pics in a bit, they're on my phone and I'm not.
03-16-2018, 06:58 PM #128
US nli Incognito
 
(03-16-2018, 01:31 PM)Mars Wrote:  bump for more wolf news. reading.gif

How about this?

Quote:Even in consensus-loving countries such as Finland, wolf-haters and wolf-lovers do battle online, trading threats, insults and wild conspiracies about illegal poaching or zoos deliberately releasing wolves. On the border with Russia, fearful locals share pictures of what they claim is a burgeoning population of Russian wolf-dogs. (The research professor Ilpo Kojola tells me that genetic testing of 450 Finnish wolves over 20 years has revealed only three cases of wolf-dog hybrids.) A suspicion of experts, scientists, entrenched power and political elites is a common thread in many of these discussions.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/f...protection
03-16-2018, 07:09 PM #129
Octo Mother Superior
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This article is talking about the wolf population on the Eastern border where they traditionally have always been hanging around. We're on the West coast and this is where wolves are now roaming fearlessly. For the first time in living memory.
03-16-2018, 07:10 PM #130
Octo Mother Superior
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Ok so the first pic is my bro and one of his dogs. This is the road we walk and ride bicycles all the time in summer time. There's a thin layer of snow over the tracks so it's inconclusive evidence, but what big animal would walk alone along that road?

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The reference in this pic is a Xrange snus can which has a 70 mm diameter.

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03-16-2018, 07:13 PM #131
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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FYI, snuss is short cut chewing tobacco like Skoal and Kodiak.
This track is a tad smaller then some of those I saw.

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03-16-2018, 07:46 PM #132
Octo Mother Superior
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(03-16-2018, 06:58 PM)US nli Wrote:  
(03-16-2018, 01:31 PM)Mars Wrote:  bump for more wolf news. reading.gif

How about this?

Quote:Even in consensus-loving countries such as Finland, wolf-haters and wolf-lovers do battle online, trading threats, insults and wild conspiracies about illegal poaching or zoos deliberately releasing wolves. On the border with Russia, fearful locals share pictures of what they claim is a burgeoning population of Russian wolf-dogs. (The research professor Ilpo Kojola tells me that genetic testing of 450 Finnish wolves over 20 years has revealed only three cases of wolf-dog hybrids.) A suspicion of experts, scientists, entrenched power and political elites is a common thread in many of these discussions.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/f...protection

Besides, the article is just over a year old. We didn't have this problem a year ago.
03-17-2018, 02:51 AM #133
Kreeper Griobhtha
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NC mom fights off coyote attacking daughter. ‘It just wanted to eat me,’ girl says.


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03-18-2018, 01:54 PM #134
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Took a stroll with the puppy last night around sunset, upon crossing the bridge over the river things got kinda' weird.
We heard dogs howling, not too far away dogs...
howling as if they saw something.
Basically stopped in our tracks, and looked at one another and I noticed Masons ears were in the holy shit position, so...
We promptly turned around and "hightailed" it home.

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03-18-2018, 04:22 PM #135
Mars Member
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Don't get too far from civilization.



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