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What would the world be like if there had been no USA?
07-04-2014, 07:59 AM #1
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As Independence Day approaches in minutes at this location, it's interesting to contemplate what the world would be like if there had been no Declaration of Independence and no Constitution.

The world would have continued on much the same way as the world had carried on before:
  • Poverty for the majority
  • Invasions of countries to accumulate wealth
  • Slavery

Because the USA was created, there is unprecedented wealth and technology that has spread to various parts of the world.

There is more much more freedom in the world.

No democracy has invaded another democracy since the US came on the scene.

Seizing land and resources as plunder has become the exception rather than the rule.

The USA is rolling downhill to a cliff as we speak. If the USA dies - and there is nothing to prevent that from happening - we can expect that the world will go back to the world's previous era.

Nations will once again plunder for riches. The world will bring back indentured servitude and increase slavery once again.

Poverty will come back for the vast majority.

As you might have noticed, we are already seeing the shift. It's not something only for the future. More and more it's coming as can be seen from today's employment report.

Today's employment figures:

1. 500,000 full time jobs lost

2. 800,000 part time jobs filled

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07-04-2014, 08:56 AM #2
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(07-04-2014, 07:59 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  The world would have continued on much the same way as the world had carried on before:
  • Poverty for the majority
  • Invasions of countries to accumulate wealth
  • Slavery

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dont mean to piss on your parade on how great your country is, but arent these things you listed what your country does?

from what i hear from people on multiple forums you guys have people living below the poverty line on your third world minimum wage and socialist food stamp programs.. that is nothing to be proud of.. its bad!

all the invasions of other countries to spread *cough* democracy and make some people at the top very $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.. praise that too..

slavery was more a USA thing.. didnt have slaves in my country.. the slave issue was never as big as it was in the USA.. when anyone internationally thinks of slaves they think of the USA..

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07-04-2014, 09:13 AM #3
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(07-04-2014, 08:56 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  
(07-04-2014, 07:59 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  The world would have continued on much the same way as the world had carried on before:
  • Poverty for the majority
  • Invasions of countries to accumulate wealth
  • Slavery

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dont mean to piss on your parade on how great your country is, but arent these things you listed what your country does?

from what i hear from people on multiple forums you guys have people living below the poverty line on your third world minimum wage and socialist food stamp programs.. that is nothing to be proud of.. its bad!

all the invasions of other countries to spread *cough* democracy and make some people at the top very $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.. praise that too..

slavery was more a USA thing.. didnt have slaves in my country.. the slave issue was never as big as it was in the USA.. when anyone internationally thinks of slaves they think of the USA..

happy 'whatever day it is' day.. cheers.gif

Every country is far from it's perfected self. So the progressives pick at that by pointing out the US's problems and then hates them for it, when in fact without the USA, the ENTIRE world is a sh!tpot.

The US didn't have slavery worse than other countries. That's absurd. BTW, there is STILL slavery in the Arab world and the Asian world.

We are unique in that the US is the only nation to fight a war to end slavery. That's how much it was opposed by the people.

The US does not invade countries to plunder them or to take them over. That is something new in world history. Until the US came along taking over countries was the hard and fast rule all over the globe.

After 225 years since the Constitution was signed, the US is indeed at risk of losing it all. If that happens, the ENTIRE world will feel it. The world will go back to it's brutish former self.

Plunder will be the way of the world along with slavery in more and more places as the conquerors enslave the losers.

As I recall, you love nothing more than pointing out the faults the US has. We have them. So does your country and every other nation. I'm not going to get into a p1ssing contest about who has the worse problems because your country sucks just like every other country sucks.

The point here is that the creation of the USA gave the world something it has never had before, something magnificent. If the idea of America goes away, your country will get sicker. Most likely, China would become your ruler.

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07-04-2014, 09:20 AM #4
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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The founders had the best of intentions, those that came after were only worried about lining their pockets.

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07-04-2014, 09:23 AM #5
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your OP is pretty much saying that the rest of the world are savages and we would be and have nothing if it wasnt for the great land of America.. come on, man.. get effen real..

the world would have survived and prospered without the US ever being there.. it wouldnt have made one inch of difference..
07-04-2014, 09:28 AM #6
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(07-04-2014, 09:23 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  rofl.gif

your OP is pretty much saying that the rest of the world are savages and we would be and have nothing if it wasnt for the great land of America.. come on, man.. get effen real..

the world would have survived and prospered without the US ever being there.. it wouldnt have made one inch of difference..

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07-04-2014, 09:37 AM #7
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07-04-2014, 10:07 AM #8
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If there had been no US, what version of Hollywood and cultural programming would we have? hmm.gif
07-04-2014, 10:13 AM #9
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(07-04-2014, 10:07 AM)Octo Wrote:  If there had been no US, what version of Hollywood and cultural programming would we have? hmm.gif

There would be no Hollywood because making movies requires serious patent and copyright protection, and those two things were included in the Constitution.

That's why the US is so friggin wealthy. It was made possible by those two protections.

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07-04-2014, 10:19 AM #10
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(07-04-2014, 09:23 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  rofl.gif

your OP is pretty much saying that the rest of the world are savages and we would be and have nothing if it wasnt for the great land of America.. come on, man.. get effen real..

the world would have survived and prospered without the US ever being there.. it wouldn't have made one inch of difference..

Of course Americans can be savages. That's a human potential. The reason for the Constitution was BECAUSE humans can be savages.

Not to mention any names or anything, but some folks would love nothing better than to enslave or wipe out the Jews. If left to their own desires or fear from the USA, many Jews would be going through Holocaust II right now. That's how savage some people can be.

Not one inch different, you say?? The world would still be poor and its people enslaved or at least poor for the most part, and you would not be able to share your thoughts on the internet.

There would be almost no prosperity. Patent and copyright protection is what made America rich and has made other nations also start to become rich such as India, Russia, Europe, Israel and Brazil, along with places like Singapore and Hong Kong.

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07-04-2014, 10:26 AM #11
Octo Mother Superior
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(07-04-2014, 10:13 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(07-04-2014, 10:07 AM)Octo Wrote:  If there had been no US, what version of Hollywood and cultural programming would we have? hmm.gif

There would be no Hollywood because making movies requires serious patent and copyright protection, and those two things were included in the Constitution.

That's why the US is so friggin wealthy. It was made possible by those two protections.

If there was no Hollywood some other movie production hub would dominate the markets. Might be a totally different setup, no need to follow the US constitution which would not exist anyway.
07-04-2014, 10:26 AM #12
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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Not to argue the obvious...but one thing to noodle over in fairly recent history:

The Axis powers would have won WWII.

That would have truly sucked.
07-04-2014, 10:35 AM #13
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No, but this hypothetical situation depends totally on why the US doesn't exist. Was it never discovered or did it cease to exist? I think there might have been a totally different situation world war wise if there never was a US.
07-04-2014, 10:35 AM #14
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(07-04-2014, 10:19 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Not one inch different, you say?? The world would still be poor and its people enslaved or at least poor for the most part, and you would not be able to share your thoughts on the internet.

There would be almost no prosperity. Patent and copyright protection is what made America rich and has made other nations also start to become rich such as India, Russia, Europe, Israel and Brazil, along with places like Singapore and Hong Kong.

are you living on a diff planet? have you never travelled the world? (mexico and canada dont count)

havnt you heard of the british empire? we would have had everything and more, it would have made zero difference.. its as though you think that the migrants (from europe, that popultaed all our countries) that came to Murica had some finely tuned brains that their realtives that went to other countries didnt have..

the world would have prospered..

would have made zero difference..
07-04-2014, 10:35 AM #15
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No American Independence from a NWO dictator King? .
The NWO slaves of I the People of NWO King would be full slaves to the dictator or be tortured to death.
This would be a waste land of powerful rich royalty and obedient slaves without a voice or any liberty's.

Possibly complete extermination of the Human Spirit.



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