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When you start picking up bad vibes at a place time to leave ?
05-20-2013, 08:23 AM #1
The Ghost Of ULP Member
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Ok got a strange question... I been working at this post at work at a Grocery store that is closed on 3rd shift... I would watch the stock crews car and out side parking lot just to make sure no body tried to get into the store. Well the past few weeks I had been getting really bad vibes. I just wanted to leave and not go back. I mean I am not sure what it was. Maybe I was just over reacting. But no one really wanted to talk to you much or get to know you and you just felt out of place. The stock crew was not bad at least they did talk to you a little bit. But the last day I was there I just got the really bad vibe when employees were coming in.... I am now removed from that site and working a different site and feel much much better. Things seem to have worked out for the time being...
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05-20-2013, 09:48 AM #2
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
They have been stealing from the store and you were too vigilant.

Well done.
05-20-2013, 10:05 AM #3
Accidental Stoner Member
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^ Seems like a plausible theory. ^

Not much choice but to ride out the bad vibes,
if you need the job...but yeah, there's a limit to
everything.

Worked on a chem-wash (mostly hotel bedsheets
and stuff like that - yuccchh!!!) once, but when
the owner's wife sneaked up on me with a stop-
watch in her hand - before my cig was out! - I
just quit right there and then. Rather be penniless
and starve for a while, than take that kind of inhuman,
humiliating sheit.
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05-20-2013, 10:11 AM #4
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
In fact, I'd talk to your boss and see why you were relieved from that site. If it was a client complaint, find out what the complaint was. If it doesn't make sense, tell him you suspect Larson and suggest your supervisor place undercover Officers within the organization for a year and see what they come up with. might want to find out if the books are squared away. If there are discrepancies, then they have been stealing.

I have been in Security for years. Not anymore, but it first started in the Military and then I went to civilian Plain Clothes Store Detective and then to Uniformed security, then Armed security and VIP Protection.

I have cleaned up bowling alleys of Russian gangs and such.

Whenever you feel those vibes..... best to listen and watch your back. Because you are tuned in and you sense things because it's in your blood.

Listen to your gut.

You did well, in my opinion. Not even knowing all of the facts.
05-20-2013, 10:15 AM #5
Accidental Stoner Member
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(05-20-2013, 10:11 AM)JollyRoger Wrote:  .../Whenever you feel those vibes..... best to listen and watch your back. Because you are tuned in and you sense things because it's in your blood.

Listen to your gut.

/...


Bloody good advice.
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05-20-2013, 10:20 AM #6
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
Just remember to always be as descriptive as possible in all of your reports about EVERYTHING that goes on within your Jurisdiction. "Feelings" are considered subjective, but they still want to hear about them. Experienced Officers know that feeling and if your supervisors are experienced, they will listen.

Always write down everything. It might save your ass one day.
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05-20-2013, 10:27 AM #7
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
Also.... Just something to consider.... When I was a Supervisor for Security, I would rotate Officers at certain sites if I suspected an issue. This way, nobody has time to make friends and influence an Officer by bribery or "Buddie Buddie, I didn't see shït".

So, you may have just been rotated out because of something like that. I also used to rotate if I felt it was a safety issue.
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05-20-2013, 10:29 AM #8
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
If you have a cell phone, you can even take photos and videos of everything that you deem fit on that jurisdiction.

Remember.... While at your post, YOU are da man. Not the client. You answer to your Supervisor, unless the client asks for your help relating to security. Other then that keep it strictly business and never get too friendly with the client or their staff.

Make sure the client knows by your actions and professionalism that you are by the book, strictly business and never ever slack off on it. They will notice immediately and take advantage of your very first mistake.

And never set an observable routine. Always break up your patrols in different, unpredictable times. VERY important.
05-20-2013, 10:56 AM #9
The Ghost Of ULP Member
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(05-20-2013, 10:11 AM)JollyRoger Wrote:  In fact, I'd talk to your boss and see why you were relieved from that site. If it was a client complaint, find out what the complaint was. If it doesn't make sense, tell him you suspect Larson and suggest your supervisor place undercover Officers within the organization for a year and see what they come up with. might want to find out if the books are squared away. If there are discrepancies, then they have been stealing.

I have been in Security for years. Not anymore, but it first started in the Military and then I went to civilian Plain Clothes Store Detective and then to Uniformed security, then Armed security and VIP Protection.

I have cleaned up bowling alleys of Russian gangs and such.

Whenever you feel those vibes..... best to listen and watch your back. Because you are tuned in and you sense things because it's in your blood.

Listen to your gut.

You did well, in my opinion. Not even knowing all of the facts.


Actully I requested to be removed to site on my own. Before I got removed from that site at the store another position opened up at a different site and was able to transfer to it. That is when I went ahead and decided to request to be removed from the store.
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05-20-2013, 11:03 AM #10
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
(05-20-2013, 10:56 AM)ULP 2.0 Wrote:  
(05-20-2013, 10:11 AM)JollyRoger Wrote:  In fact, I'd talk to your boss and see why you were relieved from that site. If it was a client complaint, find out what the complaint was. If it doesn't make sense, tell him you suspect Larson and suggest your supervisor place undercover Officers within the organization for a year and see what they come up with. might want to find out if the books are squared away. If there are discrepancies, then they have been stealing.

I have been in Security for years. Not anymore, but it first started in the Military and then I went to civilian Plain Clothes Store Detective and then to Uniformed security, then Armed security and VIP Protection.

I have cleaned up bowling alleys of Russian gangs and such.

Whenever you feel those vibes..... best to listen and watch your back. Because you are tuned in and you sense things because it's in your blood.

Listen to your gut.

You did well, in my opinion. Not even knowing all of the facts.


Actully I requested to be removed to site on my own. Before I got removed from that site at the store another position opened up at a different site and was able to transfer to it. That is when I went ahead and decided to request to be removed from the store.


Oh.... Well that's different.

Well anyway. Like I said. Follow your gut and watch your back.
05-20-2013, 11:05 AM #11
The Ghost Of ULP Member
Posts:440 Threads:212 Joined:Dec 2012
(05-20-2013, 10:29 AM)JollyRoger Wrote:  If you have a cell phone, you can even take photos and videos of everything that you deem fit on that jurisdiction.

Remember.... While at your post, YOU are da man. Not the client. You answer to your Supervisor, unless the client asks for your help relating to security. Other then that keep it strictly business and never get too friendly with the client or their staff.

Make sure the client knows by your actions and professionalism that you are by the book, strictly business and never ever slack off on it. They will notice immediately and take advantage of your very first mistake.

And never set an observable routine. Always break up your patrols in different, unpredictable times. VERY important.



Actually we are nothing and if we Do do something to try to prevent something we get jumped on... I got removed from the Distribution Center because I jumped on the wrong person one time.. That is why I had to go to one of the store locations instead... We had a no tabacoo use policy at the Center and one of the supervisors had walked in with a cigg in mouth. I had asked him to leave it on the out side like everyone else does and he became an ass about it. Week before that I had a report of pot being smoked and late one Friday night when I worked. I had a group of employees hanging out in the parking lot after hours... So i kept watching them and I was alone with no back up because everyone had left from the warehouse. I decided i needed to take the step and ask them to move along... I kept being told different times on how long people could stay in the parking lot and it was never enforced. With the recent report of pot use I decided that this was a good call. But that combined with the incident with the supervisor the next week I was removed from the site. I was just trying to do my job. This grocery chain just wants you for an insurance right off and sign people in at the front door that is it. Also that same day with the supervisor incident. I had a person walk off the main road pushing a baby carriage and started to get into a pickup truck. They never bothered to check in or nothing. When I questioned them about why they were getting in the truck they were extremely hateful and non cooperative. I had no way to contact the owner of the truck to verify if it was ok. I tried contacting management but they never did a thing about it. Then it was right after that when the supervisor came in with the cigg.

So I think it was a setup. Security is worthless at theses places. But i still tried to do my job.
05-20-2013, 11:12 AM #12
Octo Mother Superior
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I think it was a good choice to change location ULP. Bad vibes can be really detrimental to a work place.
05-20-2013, 11:14 AM #13
The Ghost Of ULP Member
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(05-20-2013, 11:12 AM)Octo Wrote:  I think it was a good choice to change location ULP. Bad vibes can be really detrimental to a work place.


Yes they can... I do not know if it just me over reacting or not but I think I am very sensitive to them.. I can feel the atmosphere of a place at the Grocery chain i was at was tense and a negative type feeling...
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05-20-2013, 11:34 AM #14
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
(05-20-2013, 11:05 AM)ULP 2.0 Wrote:  
(05-20-2013, 10:29 AM)JollyRoger Wrote:  If you have a cell phone, you can even take photos and videos of everything that you deem fit on that jurisdiction.

Remember.... While at your post, YOU are da man. Not the client. You answer to your Supervisor, unless the client asks for your help relating to security. Other then that keep it strictly business and never get too friendly with the client or their staff.

Make sure the client knows by your actions and professionalism that you are by the book, strictly business and never ever slack off on it. They will notice immediately and take advantage of your very first mistake.

And never set an observable routine. Always break up your patrols in different, unpredictable times. VERY important.



Actually we are nothing and if we Do do something to try to prevent something we get jumped on... I got removed from the Distribution Center because I jumped on the wrong person one time.. That is why I had to go to one of the store locations instead... We had a no tabacoo use policy at the Center and one of the supervisors had walked in with a cigg in mouth. I had asked him to leave it on the out side like everyone else does and he became an ass about it. Week before that I had a report of pot being smoked and late one Friday night when I worked. I had a group of employees hanging out in the parking lot after hours... So i kept watching them and I was alone with no back up because everyone had left from the warehouse. I decided i needed to take the step and ask them to move along... I kept being told different times on how long people could stay in the parking lot and it was never enforced. With the recent report of pot use I decided that this was a good call. But that combined with the incident with the supervisor the next week I was removed from the site. I was just trying to do my job. This grocery chain just wants you for an insurance right off and sign people in at the front door that is it. Also that same day with the supervisor incident. I had a person walk off the main road pushing a baby carriage and started to get into a pickup truck. They never bothered to check in or nothing. When I questioned them about why they were getting in the truck they were extremely hateful and non cooperative. I had no way to contact the owner of the truck to verify if it was ok. I tried contacting management but they never did a thing about it. Then it was right after that when the supervisor came in with the cigg.

So I think it was a setup. Security is worthless at theses places. But i still tried to do my job.


Then it's time to get a better security job. I wouldn't work for a company that doesn't have your back. Sounds like you are what we call a "Warm Body" Officer, in that, that is all you are.

Sometimes it's all in the delivery. Rather then telling someone what to do, ask them to help you out and then ask them to comply. Smile, be respectful. They will be easier to work with.

But if you are working for a company like that, then they are just rent-a-bodies. Not even real Security Officers.

I would find a better job or just become a Cop. Security jobs suck anyway and it's part time and you risk your life, freedom and reputation every day for minimum wage or just above that.

Not worth it. It's why I got out of it.
05-20-2013, 11:40 AM #15
The Ghost Of ULP Member
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(05-20-2013, 11:34 AM)JollyRoger Wrote:  
(05-20-2013, 11:05 AM)ULP 2.0 Wrote:  
(05-20-2013, 10:29 AM)JollyRoger Wrote:  If you have a cell phone, you can even take photos and videos of everything that you deem fit on that jurisdiction.

Remember.... While at your post, YOU are da man. Not the client. You answer to your Supervisor, unless the client asks for your help relating to security. Other then that keep it strictly business and never get too friendly with the client or their staff.

Make sure the client knows by your actions and professionalism that you are by the book, strictly business and never ever slack off on it. They will notice immediately and take advantage of your very first mistake.

And never set an observable routine. Always break up your patrols in different, unpredictable times. VERY important.



Actually we are nothing and if we Do do something to try to prevent something we get jumped on... I got removed from the Distribution Center because I jumped on the wrong person one time.. That is why I had to go to one of the store locations instead... We had a no tabacoo use policy at the Center and one of the supervisors had walked in with a cigg in mouth. I had asked him to leave it on the out side like everyone else does and he became an ass about it. Week before that I had a report of pot being smoked and late one Friday night when I worked. I had a group of employees hanging out in the parking lot after hours... So i kept watching them and I was alone with no back up because everyone had left from the warehouse. I decided i needed to take the step and ask them to move along... I kept being told different times on how long people could stay in the parking lot and it was never enforced. With the recent report of pot use I decided that this was a good call. But that combined with the incident with the supervisor the next week I was removed from the site. I was just trying to do my job. This grocery chain just wants you for an insurance right off and sign people in at the front door that is it. Also that same day with the supervisor incident. I had a person walk off the main road pushing a baby carriage and started to get into a pickup truck. They never bothered to check in or nothing. When I questioned them about why they were getting in the truck they were extremely hateful and non cooperative. I had no way to contact the owner of the truck to verify if it was ok. I tried contacting management but they never did a thing about it. Then it was right after that when the supervisor came in with the cigg.

So I think it was a setup. Security is worthless at theses places. But i still tried to do my job.


Then it's time to get a better security job. I wouldn't work for a company that doesn't have your back. Sounds like you are what we call a "Warm Body" Officer, in that, that is all you are.

Sometimes it's all in the delivery. Rather then telling someone what to do, ask them to help you out and then ask them to comply. Smile, be respectful. They will be easier to work with.

But if you are working for a company like that, then they are just rent-a-bodies. Not even real Security Officers.

I would find a better job or just become a Cop. Security jobs suck anyway and it's part time and you risk your life, freedom and reputation every day for minimum wage or just above that.

Not worth it. It's why I got out of it.


I want out really bad but do not have anything.. Due to personal problems I am stuck and I am just trying to suck it up. Its all I can do and its better then nothing. But your right all it is is warm bodies and an insurance right off.



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