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Where Is The Otherside Of A Universe That Never Ends?
10-19-2012, 03:51 AM #181
Octo Mother Superior
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I think we're capable of knowing, but only when we stop thinking about it. Our consciousness is so ridiculously small compared to the data we receive every second, I think it mainly exists to keep us from hurting ourselves. chuckle.gif

Our brain and subconsciousness processes an enormous amount of information and if we become aware of it it's no longer subconscious and store it somewhere else. We don't know we know things, that's why the POO have this system in place oh look something shiny blonde.gif

The problem I have with OP's theory is that I really don't think we should assume this reality is applicable to something that exists outside this universe (if such a thing even exists) without giving it some thought. We live in a relative universe where we have to have something as opposed to nothing. We need to know what warm is to know cold. Like how would you know you have a headache if you were born with it?

Another universe next door might not be like that. Something might exist without anything. Ever thought of that?

And the wall between the universes might be something to post on, or actually be made up of lost socks. My hope is there really is a Restaurant at the edge of the universe.

Second choice is a black hole.

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10-19-2012, 04:31 AM #182
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I like this mind trip.
10-19-2012, 04:42 AM #183
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10-19-2012, 12:53 PM #184
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Unfortunately,theres a very real,frightening and extremely disturbing possibility that our brains are literally and actually floating suspended within the unearthly liquid of some otherworldly container, created inside a race super intelligent,highly evolved aliens experimental laboratory within another dimension,as five wires connected to our brains five corresponding sensory locations send pre-arranged signals and pre-determined waves of information from mega advanced computers into our oblivious brains rerceiving,interpreting and preceiving those signals and waves as being our true reality,that doesnt even really exist...

If my brain is actually such a brain and it was being sent a steady stream of virtual reality signals and waves of information containing the sights,sounds,tastes,touches and smells of me standing upon the warm sand of a beach filled with people beneath a clear blue sunny sky shining down upon the waves of a vast ocean splashing around me,i would be absolutely convinced i was really there experiencing all those sensory perceptions within a real world,that doesnt even really exist, Wow,Damn,Wtf...
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10-19-2012, 01:46 PM #185
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Omg,wtf,this is what the earth,sun and moon might really look like > http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff291...g&newest=1
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10-19-2012, 02:48 PM #186
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(10-19-2012, 03:51 AM)Octo Wrote:  I think we're capable of knowing, but only when we stop thinking about it. Our consciousness is so ridiculously small compared to the data we receive every second, I think it mainly exists to keep us from hurting ourselves. chuckle.gif

Our brain and subconsciousness processes an enormous amount of information and if we become aware of it it's no longer subconscious and store it somewhere else. We don't know we know things, that's why the POO have this system in place oh look something shiny blonde.gif

The problem I have with OP's theory is that I really don't think we should assume this reality is applicable to something that exists outside this universe (if such a thing even exists) without giving it some thought. We live in a relative universe where we have to have something as opposed to nothing. We need to know what warm is to know cold. Like how would you know you have a headache if you were born with it?

Another universe next door might not be like that. Something might exist without anything. Ever thought of that?

And the wall between the universes might be something to post on, or actually be made up of lost socks. My hope is there really is a Restaurant at the edge of the universe.

Second choice is a black hole.

beerbong.gif


Our universe might be a super massive black hole and it's singularity could be the earth's biosphere...

A black hole's entropy is contained on its surface...

A black hole's information is contained at its central singularity...

It is known that there is a singularity at the centre of a black hole...

A black hole is an informational phenomenon...

So a black hole's central singularity is an informational phenomena...

Our universe is a black hole and its informational center is the earth's biosphere...

The universe is expanding with exponential acceleration...

The exponentially increasing area of the universe's horizon determines the organisation of living organisms and thus causes the exponentially accelerating evolution of life towards the emegence of the informational singularity,the human brain...

The macroverse of outer space is expanding ever faster because its being attracted and pulled across the immensely vast event horizon of a super massive black hole...

While the microverse of inner space forms within our minds...

The universe is known to be expanding with exponential acceleration,but the recession speed of the distant galaxies is determined based on the light which has reached the earth after many billions of years of propagation...

So the periphery recession speed of the universe we observe is only apparent,not actual,because that is the recession speed which existed many billions of years ago and so the actual current speed of the universe's expansion must be fantastic and unbelievably higher...

We may soon see a wall of darkness,a wave of vacuum phase transition,approaching the earth from the periphery of the universe and when the human brain becomes aware of the connection between itself and the rate of cosmological expansion,the expansion speed of the universe becomes infinitely fast and the big rip follows,another big bang occurs and a new dimension of reality is created...

As i've said before...Wow...Damn...Wtf...

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10-19-2012, 06:59 PM #187
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I have often thought and einstein may have even said that if we were able to leave this planet within a spaceship flown continuously outwards away from the earth in a straight line,never veering off course,that eventually we would end up returning from where we started from,only on the otherside of the earth opposite from the side we first launched and if that mind bending theory is really true and even if that astounding voyage took us 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 light years, there still must be a somewhere else existing beyond this universe and as i have said before and i will continue to say again,if this universe is expanding,beyond all shadows of any doubt whatsoever it absolutely must be expanding into and within a somewhere else already existing and as i have said before and i will continue to say again,wow,damn,wtf...
10-19-2012, 07:55 PM #188
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10-19-2012, 07:58 PM #189
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(10-19-2012, 06:04 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  alrighty then ,,,

now i'm sucked into this gaah.gif

without space , time does not exist

without time , space does not exist
I dont know if time is a real seperate entity,or just a word we created to explain how we structure our days according to the rising and setting sun that the earth "supposedly" revolves around and the changing seaons...

but the way we have organized ourselves within our day to day activities in this world,time and space are locked together,as in...

"I'll meet you at four"

"okay,where?

Or as in...

"I'll meet you at the park"

"Okay,when?

But what would happen to our currently enforced belief structures about time if we threw away all our clocks,watches and calendars and stopped living enslaved by them?

What then would remain of time?

Imo,not much,if anything at all...
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10-20-2012, 02:37 AM #190
Beyond Smolensk Incognito Anonymous
 
Okay so lets see...

Our universe goes on forever?

But it cant?

So our universe must have an end?

Whats on the otherside?

And where is after there?

Are we then left with no other choice,

But to accept this profoundly astounding realization,

Nothing is real?

What does that mean?
10-20-2012, 03:17 AM #191
Octo Mother Superior
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Your speculation is as good as mine. What else can we do about it but enjoy our life while it lasts? beerbong.gif
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10-20-2012, 03:38 AM #192
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(10-20-2012, 03:17 AM)Octo Wrote:  Your speculation is as good as mine. What else can we do about it but enjoy our life while it lasts? beerbong.gif
You and i and our entire perceived reality might actually exist within the virtual programs of a super advanced computer designed and operated by a class three alien civilization living within another dimension and even if that is true,where is the somewhere else that must exist beyond their world and who or what created them and their reality?
10-20-2012, 03:40 PM #193
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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This is the atlas of the known universe. Once they send up those advanced telescopies we may see further beyond the horizon, or what's over the rainbow.
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10-20-2012, 06:35 PM #194
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(10-20-2012, 03:40 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  http://youtu.be/Ufl_Nwbl8xs

This is the atlas of the known universe. Once they send up those advanced telescopies we may see further beyond the horizon, or what's over the rainbow.
All is illusion,because our eyes dont see anything,they are not capable of sight,they are only light receptors sending signals into our minds that formulate them and arrange them into comfortable and compatible images of a reality that isnt real,our vision is taking place within our minds and nowhere else,just as all of our other senses are only receptors sending signals into our minds and so this reality we think we are seeing, hearing, tasting, touching and smelling doesnt really exist,it is an illusion,its what we want and need to see and believe,a fantastic mirage,or its what someone or something wants and needs us to see and believe,a magnificent deception...
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10-20-2012, 07:10 PM #195
Beyond Smolensk Incognito Anonymous
 
We have no choice but to fall asleep into unconsciousness,so our minds can be downloaded with new virtual reality data that we unknowingly upload when we awaken into consciousness and perceive as our true reality that doesnt really exist,as we obliviously live and die within this ultra fantastic mirage,magnificent deceptions,holographic illusions...

If someday we were able to construct a machine capable of detecting the in-flow of virtual data,the super advanced computer thats downloading fabricated information into our unaware minds would probably be able to detect that it was trying to be detected and avert such detection...

Maybe i'll be deleted for trying to expose this hushed up and suppressed truth,meaning perhaps the super advanced computer will detect a rebel in the virtual matrix and it will program and download some freak accident to kill me,for making too many waves in the simulation...

If we could magnify upon something to ever smaller and smaller levels,eventually only the super sub atomic pixels of our holographically simulated reality would be revealed...

What is dark matter in relation to this simualtion we call reality,is dark matter the invisible borders of another dimension,the real world existing beyond this projecte reality we are made to think and believe we really exist within?



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