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04-13-2020, 10:38 PM #76
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(04-13-2020, 09:57 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-13-2020, 09:28 PM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(04-13-2020, 04:56 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-11-2020, 09:16 PM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(04-09-2020, 05:17 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Isn't the self-isolating there voluntary? Hey, so may idiots here...coughing on bus drivers and liquor store workers faces. sad2.gif It's because of those types of aholes that cause any type of policing, but it's not policing really. Regular people are acting to have those idiots locked up in jail because it is assault which could cause death in some people...mind boggling. Right now, here, people are given fines only. So, yeah, if you want to go out and party in the streets be prepared to pay dearly for it.

And, now criminals are breaking into closed stores and not only stealing items but vandalizing the store too.
not seeing what you describe above there in usa
sounds like a liberal wet dream tho
the states aren't all alike
btw..thought you said you lived out in the country now?
The crimes are happening in big city Canada. I now live in little country town now.

You don't have to look very far to see it is happening in the usa too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tates.html
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:...y_Mail_RfC
Just google burglaries amid coronavirus in new york there are more sources than just that one.
My point is it's not a big deal in usa-yet
In fact more like eerily quiet 
People are 'watching' this..guaging it all
in more ways than one....

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04-14-2020, 12:56 PM #77
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I’ve hardly noticed any lockdown, and have had no disruption to my routine, but I keep a very small circle of friends and I’m not much of an extrovert.
I did have one frazzled individual act indignant and ask how I could be buying garden supplies at a time like this, and she was in the home center to get some kind of plumbing repair. My reply was “you ask how I can do this at a time like this? If I plant things in July I won’t  harvest any produce from my efforts”. Then I told her that her emergency was not my emergency.

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04-14-2020, 02:44 PM #78
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-13-2020, 10:38 PM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(04-13-2020, 09:57 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-13-2020, 09:28 PM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(04-13-2020, 04:56 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-11-2020, 09:16 PM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(04-09-2020, 05:17 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Isn't the self-isolating there voluntary? Hey, so may idiots here...coughing on bus drivers and liquor store workers faces. sad2.gif It's because of those types of aholes that cause any type of policing, but it's not policing really. Regular people are acting to have those idiots locked up in jail because it is assault which could cause death in some people...mind boggling. Right now, here, people are given fines only. So, yeah, if you want to go out and party in the streets be prepared to pay dearly for it.

And, now criminals are breaking into closed stores and not only stealing items but vandalizing the store too.
not seeing what you describe above there in usa
sounds like a liberal wet dream tho
the states aren't all alike
btw..thought you said you lived out in the country now?
The crimes are happening in big city Canada. I now live in little country town now.

You don't have to look very far to see it is happening in the usa too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tates.html
The Daily Mail has been widely criticised for its unreliability, as well as printing of sensationalist and inaccurate scare stories of science and medical research,and for copyright violations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
Survey
Support prohibition Looking through the archives and talkpages across WP reveals a clear consensus not to use it at all. Many, many editors (and Jimmy Wales) have said over the years that the Mail is not a relaible source in any area. A list of reasons why would be enormous, it doesn't need reiterating, the paper is trash, pure and simple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:...y_Mail_RfC
Just google burglaries amid coronavirus in new york there are more sources than just that one.
My point is it's not a big deal in usa-yet
In fact more like eerily quiet 
People are 'watching' this..guaging it all
in more ways than one....
My point is that your police state, big brother idea is non-existant in the usa right now.
04-14-2020, 02:47 PM #79
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-14-2020, 12:56 PM)bohica Wrote:  I’ve hardly noticed any lockdown, and have had no disruption to my routine, but I keep a very small circle of friends and I’m not much of an extrovert.
I did have one frazzled individual act indignant and ask how I could be buying garden supplies at a time like this, and she was in the home center to get some kind of plumbing repair. My reply was “you ask how I can do this at a time like this? If I plant things in July I won’t  harvest any produce from my efforts”. Then I told her that her emergency was not my emergency.

At least you can go into the store to get the garden supplies, we cannot. We have to order online and do curbside pickup.

Here too, I hardly notice any lockdown or change in store employees' behaviour except for curbside pickup. I asked one lady in the frozen food place I always frequent why she is not wearing gloves (never mind a mask) she said "If I get it, then I get it so what?". Small town thinking is difficult for me to get used to. My philosophy with this is it is better to be safe than sorry.
04-14-2020, 02:54 PM #80
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-13-2020, 09:47 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  
(04-10-2020, 06:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-09-2020, 10:13 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(04-09-2020, 05:17 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Isn't the self-isolating there voluntary? Hey, so may idiots here...coughing on bus drivers and liquor store workers faces. sad2.gif It's because of those types of aholes that cause any type of policing, but it's not policing really. Regular people are acting to have those idiots locked up in jail because it is assault which could cause death in some people...mind boggling. Right now, here, people are given fines only. So, yeah, if you want to go out and party in the streets be prepared to pay dearly for it.

And, now criminals are breaking into closed stores and not only stealing items but vandalizing the store too.

Ppl are encouraged to work from home if possible, but not everyone has that possibility. Businesses are suffering, thousands are being laid off. Yeah sure, people are falling in line and the majority approve of the govt manner of handling this crisis, but it seems folks are taking it with pretty good humor.

Looks like AS spends too much time on conspiracy forums chuckle.gif 

Oh and my light switches and door handles are squeaky clean too  37.gif
wave.gif Octo, I hope you and your family are well.

Yeah, I am being very diligent because hubby and daughter are still going out to work plus daughter is doing all the shopping, but she is great at hygiene management. If I get this virus with my underlying condition, I might not survive it.

 Now people here are threatening police officers, first telling them they have the virus then coughing in their faces. And you wonder how police states start...there you have it. But, yeah, it's those few bad apples that spoil the barrel.

Not only light switches and door handles, but all door knobs, any touch buttons, keys, cell phones, car handles and steering wheel and car buttons and it goes on and on and on...every day. But I feel better knowing I have done all I can to protect all of us (hopefully). Now I'm trying to talk my mother into coming here because she is in a retirement home and in quarantine for 14 days, which ends soon. I told her it probably will be much longer and she is a sitting duck there. She is considering it, finally after much discussion.

As for AS, he just won't let go of the debunked stuff like most others here. lol  Well, whatever floats your boat.
Who debunked what? chuckle.gif

No, I've spent too much time on this planet, if so. 

chuckle.gif

I've got ears, eyes and a brain.
Absolutely nothing drives the public panic, but media.
What I am saying is that the so called virus being real or not is not the point at all.
I'm saying that accepting police state measures for perceived safety just isn't a good idea.
All with Mr Jefferson on that one.

What do you think the new normal will be?

As for everything surrounding Mr Gebreyesus, Mrs Birx, Dr Fauci, their organisations, both
gov and NGOs including their money flow etc is free for all to have a look at.

Doesn't matter, really, from what angle you want to look at it.
Read Octo's post about the testing, for instance.
I just can't follow the logic of the official narrative.

Kissing strangers and licking doorknobs still not smart lol.gif
Public media have experts giving us facts, so it's not believing media it's believing or choosing to not believe the facts the experts arrived at. Your choice of course. And the conspiracy theories are rife with every single piece of data from experts' studies and it has always been this way because we are mistrustful of our leaders and in some cases rightly so. The angle we should be looking at, is using one's critical thinking, logic, intellect, and do our own research to help us gauge what is likely to be true or not; or follow the money or leaders' path to more power (agenda).

Yeah, kissing strangers definitely the wrong way to go as I learned by experience. As for licking doorknobs, that is something I have never thought of doing and still don't think of doing. lol
04-14-2020, 08:21 PM #81
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(04-14-2020, 02:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-13-2020, 10:38 PM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(04-13-2020, 09:57 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-13-2020, 09:28 PM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(04-13-2020, 04:56 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-11-2020, 09:16 PM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  
(04-09-2020, 05:17 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Isn't the self-isolating there voluntary? Hey, so may idiots here...coughing on bus drivers and liquor store workers faces. sad2.gif It's because of those types of aholes that cause any type of policing, but it's not policing really. Regular people are acting to have those idiots locked up in jail because it is assault which could cause death in some people...mind boggling. Right now, here, people are given fines only. So, yeah, if you want to go out and party in the streets be prepared to pay dearly for it.

And, now criminals are breaking into closed stores and not only stealing items but vandalizing the store too.
not seeing what you describe above there in usa
sounds like a liberal wet dream tho
the states aren't all alike
btw..thought you said you lived out in the country now?
The crimes are happening in big city Canada. I now live in little country town now.

You don't have to look very far to see it is happening in the usa too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tates.html
The Daily Mail has been widely criticised for its unreliability, as well as printing of sensationalist and inaccurate scare stories of science and medical research,and for copyright violations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
Survey
Support prohibition Looking through the archives and talkpages across WP reveals a clear consensus not to use it at all. Many, many editors (and Jimmy Wales) have said over the years that the Mail is not a relaible source in any area. A list of reasons why would be enormous, it doesn't need reiterating, the paper is trash, pure and simple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:...y_Mail_RfC
Just google burglaries amid coronavirus in new york there are more sources than just that one.
My point is it's not a big deal in usa-yet
In fact more like eerily quiet 
People are 'watching' this..guaging it all
in more ways than one....
My point is that your police state, big brother idea is non-existant in the usa right now.

My next point is:
..i'm not the only one watching on how things are playing out/'the world is.'

' Welcome to My Nightmare '
04-16-2020, 07:10 PM #82
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Hm.

There will be another pandemic.
And then another one.

I see where it's going.
The never ending war was invented and introduced a couple of decades ago.
The pattern will repeat.

You are absolutely right, though.
Left with one's own discernment, as always.

The mere fact that all questioning of the official narrative immediately is branded
"conspiracy theory" speaks loudly, imho.

I do realize, that all direct, unsurveillable (lol, is that a word at all  in English?) communication
between more than 2 people at a time is (at least for now) done away with rather effectively.
04-16-2020, 08:30 PM #83
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Protests have begun/happening
..MI,Ohio,Texas,MN,Cali,NC,OK,Utah,KY,WY,VA,brazil,germany,canada to name a few
The major news networks say nothing/or barely

Have all kinds of current links could put to show the corruption,lies & moves towards police state/bb going on
but why bother,..most i know here knew it was going this route anyway,& not just usa chuckle.gif

' Welcome to My Nightmare '
04-17-2020, 02:52 PM #84
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-16-2020, 07:10 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Hm.

There will be another pandemic.
And then another one.

I see where it's going.
The never ending war was invented and introduced a couple of decades ago.
The pattern will repeat.

You are absolutely right, though.
Left with one's own discernment, as always.

The mere fact that all questioning of the official narrative immediately is branded
"conspiracy theory" speaks loudly, imho.

I do realize, that all direct, unsurveillable (lol, is that a word at all  in English?) communication
between more than 2 people at a time is (at least for now) done away with rather effectively.
Official narrative? What and where does it come from? So far, I can see it coming from health experts relating to this virus. Where do you see it coming from?
04-17-2020, 02:53 PM #85
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-16-2020, 08:30 PM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  Protests have begun/happening
..MI,Ohio,Texas,MN,Cali,NC,OK,Utah,KY,WY,VA,brazil,germany,canada to name a few
The major news networks say nothing/or barely

Have all kinds of current links could put to show the corruption,lies & moves towards police state/bb going on
but why bother,..most i know here knew it was going this route anyway,& not just usa chuckle.gif

Police state or simply giving people fines for being a-holes?
04-18-2020, 10:44 PM #86
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(04-14-2020, 12:56 PM)bohica Wrote:  I’ve hardly noticed any lockdown, and have had no disruption to my routine, but I keep a very small circle of friends and I’m not much of an extrovert.
I did have one frazzled individual act indignant and ask how I could be buying garden supplies at a time like this, and she was in the home center to get some kind of plumbing repair. My reply was “you ask how I can do this at a time like this? If I plant things in July I won’t  harvest any produce from my efforts”. Then I told her that her emergency was not my emergency.

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04-19-2020, 03:32 PM #87
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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This temporary stay at home is spurring me on to do home redecorating, such as painting the kitchen and entrance stairs and  railings. Constructive anyway but I am using muscles in my hands and arms I haven't used in years and it hurts. Oh well, soldier on. I also need to take a walk down the road and forest trail to throw in mosquito dunks in the pond and other water sources. This is an experiment to see if the mosquito population will lessen. I hope so.
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04-20-2020, 03:32 AM #88
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Been taking naps the past couple of days, since the spontaneous snoozes haven't been quite enough.
04-20-2020, 04:18 PM #89
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-20-2020, 03:32 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Been taking naps the past couple of days, since the spontaneous snoozes haven't been quite enough.

I am trying not to get into the napping stage rather I am trying to up my energy by finding lots of physical things to do.
04-22-2020, 02:25 PM #90
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(04-17-2020, 02:52 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-16-2020, 07:10 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Hm.

There will be another pandemic.
And then another one.

I see where it's going.
The never ending war was invented and introduced a couple of decades ago.
The pattern will repeat.

You are absolutely right, though.
Left with one's own discernment, as always.

The mere fact that all questioning of the official narrative immediately is branded
"conspiracy theory" speaks loudly, imho.

I do realize, that all direct, unsurveillable (lol, is that a word at all  in English?) communication
between more than 2 people at a time is (at least for now) done away with rather effectively.
Official narrative? What and where does it come from? So far, I can see it coming from health experts relating to this virus. Where do you see it coming from?
I see it coming from a) the government - and, bloody obviously, from supranational government
and b) the mainstream media, never missing a chance to run with the words of the experts , to
whip the public into further frenzy.

What I'm saying, is that accepting the police state and totalitarianism never ever is a good idea.
I don't care if the threat at hand is the Black friggin Death - I'd still say the same thing.



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