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Which one is better ?
07-27-2015, 09:53 PM #1
Drew Incognito
 
Which one is better FOR a child ?

A school that is regulated by the government of a region that has high academic standards, high teacher qualification standards and high testing standards...

But the realities of the situation within the schools is that the schools are a hell hole, where the students are just simply failing by ANY standard because they're not learning ANYTHING...

Because the schools are violent hell holes that the students (and the staff) are afraid of, located in ghetto slums with a
locally, nationally and internationally high murder rate.

Or, A school that is regulated by the government of a region that doesn't care at all about the kid's education, and most of the kids that graduate can't make it outside of the region..

But the kid has parents who know better and they heavily supplement the child's education that the government in the lacks..

And the behavior standards are very high, and assaulting the teacher and/or the other students comes with jail time, and lots and lots of it.

This gives the child the opportunity to learn in safety, and in spirit about learning, and doesn't develop chronic adolescent behavioral issues because the environment is so much better.
07-27-2015, 09:58 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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I only have experience with the Finnish school system and like any system it has flaws and shortcomings, but overall it seems to be working. Teachers are highly educated and apart from general guidelines free to form their own teaching methods.
07-27-2015, 10:14 PM #3
Accidental Stoner Member
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...and yet our Finnish history teacher filled us right up
with mostly propagandistic, lying bullshit.

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07-27-2015, 10:18 PM #4
Octo Mother Superior
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Sure. That's why it's important to teach the kids to question everything. Except their mother 13.gif
07-27-2015, 10:19 PM #5
bohica Member
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I Ain't got no edumacation past 12th grade.

I'm in my seventh decade on Earth. I know things.
07-27-2015, 10:20 PM #6
Drew Incognito
 
(07-27-2015, 09:58 PM)Octo Wrote:  I only have experience with the Finnish school system and like any system it has flaws and shortcomings, but overall it seems to be working. Teachers are highly educated and apart from general guidelines free to form their own teaching methods.

do they have problems like the kids assaulting and abusing the teachers, and bringing guns and dugs to school ?
07-27-2015, 10:28 PM #7
US nli Incognito
 
Its complicated, because some children bring their personal problems from home to school and teachers and school counselors do their best to help (following the school's standardized protocol) to correct behaviour (young children) or to get them outside counselling and into special programs, if needed. Behavioural problems in children should be nipped in the bud in the early years (in school, if need be).

With two paychecks are required to stay afloat these days, where are parents going to find the time to teach their children? Take that one step further, what if the child has a single working parent...where's the time, where's the energy?

What about the increasing rates of autism. Would not a standardized program with highly trained counselors help these children, as well as educating parents, teachers, school children, etc.

As Octo said, there is some good and some bad with educational systems. Parents should get involved by meeting with their child's teacher and what exactly their children are being taught. My government wants to remove teacher's ability to develop their own teaching methodology, yet still delivering the curriculum. This is not going over well.

I tried stepping in to teach my children how to approach certain math functions differently than their teacher's methodology, and my children said that I was doing it wrong and that their teacher wanted it done 'this way' and that they had to do it only that way. My way was the 'math made easy' way.

Also, once I determined that the school's standardized way to teach my children how to ready was visual not phonetic, so I took it upon myself to teach them how to read phonetically, just to cover all bases.
07-27-2015, 10:35 PM #8
Drew Incognito
 
I was asked by Elaine, what would happen if she sent her daughter who attends "Strawberry Mansion High School" in Philadelphia...
To here to Fayetteville, Arkansas to attend the Fayetteville High School.

I said...
That depends on who she is.

If she's one of the average students, with the median behavior up in Philadelphia..

If You send her here, you're going to lose her..
And she won't see the light of day again for the next 25 years.
And you'll owe the state of Arkansas about $250,000 in fines, Restitution, and court costs.

Minimum, depending on what she does.
07-27-2015, 10:39 PM #9
Octo Mother Superior
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(07-27-2015, 10:20 PM)Drew Wrote:  
(07-27-2015, 09:58 PM)Octo Wrote:  I only have experience with the Finnish school system and like any system it has flaws and shortcomings, but overall it seems to be working. Teachers are highly educated and apart from general guidelines free to form their own teaching methods.

do they have problems like the kids assaulting and abusing the teachers, and bringing guns and dugs to school ?

I guess there is the regular bullying to some degree in most schools, maybe drugs too these days, but assault and abuse of teachers is not very common.
07-27-2015, 10:40 PM #10
Accidental Stoner Member
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(07-27-2015, 10:19 PM)bohica Wrote:  I Ain't got no edumacation past 12th grade.

Me neither, really.

And that is why we can enjoy our free minds. cheers.gif
07-27-2015, 10:42 PM #11
Octo Mother Superior
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I have lots of edumacation, but my mind doesn't feel very constipated 13.gif



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