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Who was the most important person of the 20th century that shaped the world as we know it????
02-21-2014, 03:44 AM #16
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(02-21-2014, 03:34 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Although infamous and yet still praised and idolized by millions,these three men unequaled during the twentieth century all equally in their own ways most certainly altered vast segments of this world and forever changed the borders and cultures of so many different countries and the lives of billions of people and you and i are still living amongst their immense and far reaching consequences and transformations...

Adolph Hitler...Joseph Stalin...Mao Tse Tung...

No WW1 then no Stalin cuz the Russian empire would've still been standing no Hitler for obvious reasons......not sure about Mao I have to look it up
02-21-2014, 03:47 AM #17
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Hi Beyond,

That is some heavy names,,,thought you would do something on the

Royals of WW1,,,it was a family affair,,,you know,,,well kinda...

(:X
02-21-2014, 03:50 AM #18
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(02-21-2014, 03:28 AM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  
(02-21-2014, 12:49 AM)Softy Wrote:  World War I: A Royal Family Feud

http://voices.yahoo.com/world-war-royal-...43986.html

And Germany got dragged into it by treaty,,,

with Austria,,,

and WW2 was a continuation of WW1,,,

or Germany would have turned out much different...

(:X

Without ww1 we would've never known Hitler's name(he wouldn't have had been able to place blame for ww1 which means nobody would've listened to him) and after that no cold-war no korea no Vietnam etc......

True,,,but they had been working on WW1 since 1880,,,well starting to arm up,,,

1912 almost got it going,,,1913 once again,,,then it got going...

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02-21-2014, 04:38 AM #19
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(02-21-2014, 03:44 AM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  
(02-21-2014, 03:34 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Although infamous and yet still praised and idolized by millions,these three men unequaled during the twentieth century all equally in their own ways most certainly altered vast segments of this world and forever changed the borders and cultures of so many different countries and the lives of billions of people and you and i are still living amongst their immense and far reaching consequences and transformations...

Adolph Hitler...Joseph Stalin...Mao Tse Tung...

No WW1 then no Stalin cuz the Russian empire would've still been standing no Hitler for obvious reasons......not sure about Mao I have to look it up
I hear what your saying and i know what you mean,but then we could trace other reasons and other events that evolved into causing world war one and so on and so on right back throughout human history and so overall the three people i listed were imo the most historically important people of the twentieth century...

I like your choice as well the guy who assassinated the arch duke and his wife and more or less caused the first world war surely shots heard round the world...

Just imagine how vital and far reaching these ill fated decisions were,the people who twice turned down adolph hitlers entry into the vienna academy of art,like wow seriously think about that...
02-21-2014, 05:30 AM #20
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(02-20-2014, 11:22 PM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  The single most important person who do you think it was???? No wrong answer just your opinion....

I think it was Gavrilo Princip.

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02-21-2014, 05:54 AM #21
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(02-21-2014, 05:30 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  
(02-20-2014, 11:22 PM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  The single most important person who do you think it was???? No wrong answer just your opinion....

I think it was Gavrilo Princip.

exeter..
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02-21-2014, 06:41 AM #22
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(02-20-2014, 11:46 PM)Lisa Boxx Wrote:  Ronald Reagan. He ran on a platform of no CFR members in his cabinet and then stacked his cabinet with them. From that came SDI; which will destroy most of Humanity.

You say that like it was a bad thing...
02-21-2014, 06:52 AM #23
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(02-21-2014, 06:41 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  
(02-20-2014, 11:46 PM)Lisa Boxx Wrote:  Ronald Reagan. He ran on a platform of no CFR members in his cabinet and then stacked his cabinet with them. From that came SDI; which will destroy most of Humanity.

You say that like it was a bad thing...
Just imagine how many profound changes president Reagan might have influenced if he wasnt sleeping through so many important meetings and consulting astrological charts for vital decision making (*-*)
02-21-2014, 07:00 AM #24
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(02-21-2014, 04:38 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(02-21-2014, 03:44 AM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  
(02-21-2014, 03:34 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Although infamous and yet still praised and idolized by millions,these three men unequaled during the twentieth century all equally in their own ways most certainly altered vast segments of this world and forever changed the borders and cultures of so many different countries and the lives of billions of people and you and i are still living amongst their immense and far reaching consequences and transformations...

Adolph Hitler...Joseph Stalin...Mao Tse Tung...

No WW1 then no Stalin cuz the Russian empire would've still been standing no Hitler for obvious reasons......not sure about Mao I have to look it up
I hear what your saying and i know what you mean,but then we could trace other reasons and other events that evolved into causing world war one and so on and so on right back throughout human history and so overall the three people i listed were imo the most historically important people of the twentieth century...

I like your choice as well the guy who assassinated the arch duke and his wife and more or less caused the first world war surely shots heard round the world...

Just imagine how vital and far reaching these ill fated decisions were,the people who twice turned down adolph hitlers entry into the vienna academy of art,like wow seriously think about that...

Yep we could go back and say this caused that and this caused that etc.... thats why I narrowed it to the 20th century -

This guy wrote a book about it and this is the review.....

Quote:Archduke Franz Ferdinand Lives!, a work of counterfactual history, envisages a world in which the assassination of the archduke at Sarajevo in 1914 never happened. The first world war may not have broken out as a consequence; and the Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian and Russian empires would have been left standing. Without Sarajevo, moreover, German aggression might not have been punished at Versailles, and Hitler would have had no cause for grievance. Without Hitler, in turn, European Jewry was allowed to prosper and grow numerous; Israel may not have come into being, however, as Jewry had no need of a salvation abroad.



In Richard Ned Lebow's alternative history, Franz Ferdinand is crowned emperor in 1916 following the death of his uncle, Franz Josef. The Habsburg empire under Ferdinand would have continued to unite Serbs, Croatians, Greeks, Bulgars and Transylvanians, Jews and non-Jews alike, in the cosmopolitan lands of Mitteleuropa (Middle Europe). The double-headed eagle was seen to fly over the Habsburg capital of Vienna as a symbol of monarchical tolerance; in the real "historical world", of course, the tolerance was crushed by Nazi and Soviet intolerance.

Soviet Europe, with its grey, monocultural states cleansed of human variety, would have been unrecognisable to Franz Ferdinand and his walrus-moustached officials. By his murderous ideology, Stalin put an end to the region's ethnic diversity of Jews, Muslims and Magyars. Lebow contends that the Bolshevik revolution itself might not have erupted in 1917 without Sarajevo and the conflict that ensued. Russia in 1914 was probably ripe for revolution, but Lebow wants us to reflect on an alternative, when Stalin was absent.

More - http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/ja...bow-review
02-21-2014, 07:05 AM #25
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Let me tell ya should i cry or scream? because World War Two was like some kind of savage evil repeat continuation of World War One,its just that the royal bloodline elites had to wait a few years in between those apocalyptic human conflagrations,in order to allow for another generation of doomed youth to grow up and became old enough to slaughter like the annihilated generation that was driven down and forced into their too early graves before them like wtf!

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02-21-2014, 07:35 AM #26
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(02-21-2014, 07:05 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Let me tell ya should i cry or scream? because World War Two was like some kind of savage evil repeat continuation of World War One,its just that the royal bloodline elites had to wait a few years in between those apocalyptic human conflagrations,in order to allow for another generation of doomed youth to grow up and became old enough to slaughter like the annihilated generation that was driven down and forced into their too early graves before them like wtf!

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02-21-2014, 07:45 AM #27
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#1 Tesla. Without him there is no alternating current which probably means no air conditioning or refrigeration. Air conditioning and refrigeration have resulted in a large geographic shift of the population at least in the US. He also invented the radio according to the U.S. Supreme Court, not Marconi.

#2 Churchill. If he hadn't stood up to Hitler, there's no telling what this world would be like.

Bonus. The person who should have had the greatest effect on the 20th century but didn't because of TPTB would be Dr. Emanuel Revici.

Not only did he cure cancer, drug addiction, alcohol addiction, arthritis, migraines and childhood retardation, he also rewrote the Periodic Table of Elements and came up with his own theory of evolution that beats the snot out of Darwinian Evolution.

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02-21-2014, 07:49 AM #28
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Its him!...Here he is!...Hes the one!

"Let Me Clarify This" "That A Boy Luther!"

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02-21-2014, 07:57 AM #29
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Two more choices would be Ray Kroc (the founder of McDonalds) and Ronald McDonald.

Without them Americans would weigh 20 pounds less. Today 70% of adults are either overweight or obese. McDonalds has spread its disease to many countries now.

"Mr. Monsanto" will have the greatest effect on the 21st century. Between killing the honey bees and killing people with GMO's, they should be right up there with Mao + Stalin + Hitler.

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02-21-2014, 08:01 AM #30
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(02-21-2014, 07:57 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Two more choices would be Ray Kroc (the founder of McDonalds) and Ronald McDonald.
They've ended up adding about 500,000,000 tons of human fat to the weight of planet earth (*-*)



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