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Why did Jupiter FLASH us?
10-11-2012, 05:43 AM #1
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It's an insult what they are putting forward as "impacts" actually have ample evidence to be "electrical discharges". Why must they keep lying?

Because for Jupiter to have discharged this massively, there has to be something BIG going on deep inside....!

A book by J Edward Carper published last year has a logical explanation for what is going on....

Does anyone want to know more?

10-11-2012, 05:44 AM #2
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http://www.amazon.com/Philosophers-Stone...s=j+carper

or

http://jabbingjupiter.com/

For more information, and I will answer questions here also.
10-11-2012, 05:46 AM #3
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Video of theory in a nutshell...
10-11-2012, 09:38 AM #4
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hmm.gif Interesting, will have a look when I finally wake up. coffeetime.gif

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10-11-2012, 10:08 AM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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Interesting indeed! I've read about this project before. cheers.gif

Quote:Why must they keep lying?

Because they can. bored.gif

Welcome Jupiter-Lucifer. wave.gif
10-11-2012, 12:07 PM #6
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I don't know about Jupiter flashing us but well what more can I say. chuckle.gif



İmage



I will look into this.

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10-11-2012, 12:30 PM #7
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lmao.gif At least Mr. banana has a peal.

Morning NODOOM! beercheer.gif Already done with coffee, and sampling this weeks batch of homebrew.drinking.gif

mmm delicious! moarbeer.gif

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10-11-2012, 12:43 PM #8
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lmao.gif

Morning JR.

I have the cider brewing slowly. A favourite of the locals. chuckle.gif

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10-11-2012, 01:09 PM #9
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I'd love to try brewing some, but all the premix stuff has sulphites. Anything with that gives me a headache and strange muscle twitches.
Do you have a from scratch recipe per chance? We can get turbo yeast here that brings something like that about 24% in 5 days. damned.gif chuckle.gif

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10-11-2012, 01:36 PM #10
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İmage


Get yourself about 3 kilo of red apples. Remove the cores. Then crush the apples with the peal. Next purée the apples. Now sieve the purée to get the juice. Add a sick of cinnamon and a the juice of one squeezed lemon. Now add 1 kilo of sugar. add 5 litres of warm (not hot) water. Pour all this into a wine brewers bottle as pictured.

Now the hard part. Leave for 1 month. Enjoy.

Notice there is no yeast. This is natural fermentation at its best.

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10-11-2012, 01:42 PM #11
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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beercheer.gif Thanks NODOOM! That would make some great Christmas brew! We plan on doing up some IPA for the holidays as well. December is a good month to stay pickled. chuckle.gif
We'll let you know how it works out.

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10-11-2012, 01:46 PM #12
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Thanks JR. Look forward to hearing about it. If you remember anything after drinking it. chuckle.gif


I have about 50 litres on the go now for the hols. Gonna be fun.beercheer.gif

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10-11-2012, 02:47 PM #13
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Do you use regular sugar or dextrose?

btw, sorry J-Lucifer for getting off topic here briefly. chuckle.gif
10-11-2012, 03:00 PM #14
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(10-11-2012, 02:47 PM)Octo Wrote:  Do you use regular sugar or dextrose?

btw, sorry J-Lucifer for getting off topic here briefly. chuckle.gif


Dextrose.

And yeah sorry lucifer for going off topic. Can't imagine how that happened. Disgraceful to say the least. It has never happened before. chuckle.gif

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10-11-2012, 03:05 PM #15
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Question, I have received, and answer:

"Are you suggesting the explosion went right through the planet's core?"

Good question!

The book explains this more in detail. What happens when you have a tremendous and sudden temperature spike like the one proposed in the book from a fissile fission reaction of Pu-238/239 (which has been shown to be possible, under massive pressure, by several studies now) the heat generated initiates a Proton-Proton nuclear fusion chain reaction similar to the one in the Sun. This is because at the point of the spike there is dense liquid-metallic hydrogen at over 30 million bars of pressure.

It is hard to imagine this kind of pressure because nothing like it exists on Earth. The pressure at the center of the Sun is even greater than this, of course.

This initial fission to fusion sequence did NOT happen exactly at the center of the Jupiter, but at about 80 to 90 percent of the radius into Jupiter, so NEAR the center but not AT the center.

This initial fusion reaction created somewhat of an engine because the material heated up at the point of the reaction wanted to RISE swiftly to the surface because it had suddenly gone from VERY HIGH pressure and density to RELATIVELY VERY LOW pressure and density. The laws of physics say that in this situation, the material will seek its kind so it rises to try to find a spot that is lower in density and pressure and therefore rises to the "atmospheric surface" of Jupiter!

On the other end, the fusion reaction continues, seeking the more dense areas below to sustain itself. By default, there is nothing to stop the fusion reaction from continuing to go deeper; once it has started it becomes a "runaway reaction" because it is still finding proper HEAT, INGREDIENTS, and PRESSURE to keep going, and it finds this going TOWARDS THE CORE and NOT going away from the core.

Now, the VERY CORE ITSELF does not contain very satisfactory elements to continue fusion, but everything in the SHELL around the core has the proper ingredients. But the core gets liquidated before the fusion reaction actually gets there! Here's why: We described the pressure and density differentials and how this causes MOVEMENT of material towards its like conditions...this same process started to affect the core very soon after this reaction started. What occurred is referred to as a "cone of attraction" which describes the same affect. The material at the core is under more massive pressure than the surrounding shell. In essence it is always seeking to "get out" but is held in place by the pressure around it (the mass of material around it). In fact the ONLY thing allowing the very inner core to possibly be SOLID material is the ENORMOUS PRESSURE and the EQUATION OF STATE of those materials at the inner core to translate that material as SOLID under the correct PRESSURE, TEMPERATURE, and DENSITY.

This same EQUATION OF STATE concept is what allows the pyrolitic graphite casings holding the plutonium to stay intact as SOLID until near the center of Jupiter. BUT, suddenly the EQUATION OF STATE has been massively CHANGED with the TEMPERATURE spike and subsequent spreading fusion reaction.

AS SOON AS THE VERY CENTER OF JUPITER detects that a PRESSURE POINT has weakened above it, IT FINDS THAT WEAK POINT AND IMMEDIATELY BEGINS ESCAPING THERE! That escape point above was the fusion reaction changing the pressure dynamics above the center of Jupiter. AS SOON AS THE MATERIAL STARTS ESCAPING it turns from SOLID to LIQUID when it is allowed to EXPAND UP AND OUT. This is what the equation of state formula says. This entire process is VIOLENT and what occurs is a steady stream of LIQUIDATING center material that is RISING SWIFTLY as it expands rapidly.

To remind one, the material at the VERY CENTER was possibly at 50 million or more bars and suddenly finds an escape route to the 40 million, then 30 million, then 20 million bars and so on. You can see that it RAPIDLY rises just like a helium balloon released at the surface of Earth rises rapidly to seek its kind in the higher atmosphere.

This is the LIQUIDATING of the center that I speak of and this is how PART of the center of Jupiter was expelled ALL OF THE WAY TO THE TOP to form the Wesley mark. Silica in the spectral analysis was the liquidated silica at the center of Jupiter.

Why did this KEEP rising so violently? Because once the liquidation process started it was almost like a pumping action feeding into that WEAK SPOT we talked of. The material that escaped FIRST kept being PUSHED UP EVEN MORE by subsequent material escaping just behind it. This continued for THREE WEEKS!

Meanwhile, the fusion reaction that initiated this whole thing was finding places to survive in the shell surrounding the core and once the core had been liquidated, the core material was dispersed throughout a much larger center area of Jupiter allowing the fusion reaction to generally consolidate at the center and shell. This became a VERY WEAK FUSION reaction by normal STAR standards but was able to SELF-REGULATE to what Jupiter could handle. This is how: a combination of reduced "fusion density" (as compared to the Sun) and the reduced "surface area to volume" ratio of the actual ball in fusion with comparison to the ratio of mass holding it in (this also with respect to what we believe is going on in the Sun).

So what the book proposes is that we have a very modest fusion reaction that is working away at the lower 5 to 10% of Jupiter's radius and sending heat via convection and conduction also radiation to levels higher.



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