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Why did we stop inventing gods?
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08-17-2016, 04:42 PM #16
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(08-14-2016, 05:17 AM)JaneruAcrux Wrote:  Because
Divide and Conquer.
Everything started from greek. Of the universal construct of "God and Goddesses"
Then the roman wanted a controlled nation so they created christianity and followed forth those near the same tyranny.

Indeed.

Regards
DL
08-17-2016, 05:35 PM #17
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We didn't stop. Now we worship money and the state.
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08-17-2016, 07:36 PM #18
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(08-17-2016, 05:35 PM)Midas Wrote:  We didn't stop. Now we worship money and the state.

We are heading that way for sure as man has always sought stability and order that money brings and secular governments.good laws.

Secular governments have brought laws that demonstrably are more moral than what the old gods have produced.

Regards
DL
08-17-2016, 08:01 PM #19
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(08-17-2016, 07:36 PM)Greatest I am Wrote:  
(08-17-2016, 05:35 PM)Midas Wrote:  We didn't stop. Now we worship money and the state.

We are heading that way for sure as man has always sought stability and order that money brings and secular governments.good laws.

Secular governments have brought laws that demonstrably are more moral than what the old gods have produced.

Regards
DL
Unfortunately, wealth comes in many forms. Government use money as of a manipulative economic control.

Most of the control was invented anyways and upon the public limited eye, they sought immediate propaganda.
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09-05-2016, 10:48 PM #20
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(08-17-2016, 08:01 PM)JaneruAcrux Wrote:  
(08-17-2016, 07:36 PM)Greatest I am Wrote:  
(08-17-2016, 05:35 PM)Midas Wrote:  We didn't stop. Now we worship money and the state.

We are heading that way for sure as man has always sought stability and order that money brings and secular governments.good laws.

Secular governments have brought laws that demonstrably are more moral than what the old gods have produced.

Regards
DL
Unfortunately, wealth comes in many forms. Government use money as of a manipulative economic control.

Most of the control was invented anyways and upon the public limited eye, they sought immediate propaganda.

No argument.

Let's just be happy we live under secular law and not theistic law.

Regards
DL
09-06-2016, 12:21 AM #21
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(08-17-2016, 04:28 PM)Greatest I am Wrote:  
(08-13-2016, 07:13 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  Because the monotheist desert cults have ruled with violence and fear for 2,000 years.

Strange that those religions of peace and love could only grow themselves with violence instead of good deeds, yet retain the respect of so many.

It must be due to our natural love of drama and the epitome of that is war.

Regards
DL

More like a deep fear of eternal suffering in hell and the lake of fire. Oddly, it is that fabrication that started me away from Christianity.

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
09-06-2016, 12:23 AM #22
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(08-17-2016, 04:30 PM)Greatest I am Wrote:  
(08-13-2016, 07:14 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  But I'm not so sure I would agree with the "invent" part.

Perhaps this will help you accept the term.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynA

If not what term would you use?

Regards
DL

Considering the subject matter, I was thinking it is just as likely they were "visited" by the "gods".

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
09-06-2016, 01:15 AM #23
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Gods were stopped when modern man realised that "Gods" Were not having the desired affect .
We have to realise that God's are there really for the rich benefit ,after all you can be promised anything to make you do what the richest want . You want Riches god will give you that if you give your money to the rich .. you wantt virgins god will give you them if you slay our enemies .
Basically god exists for a bargaining tool for modern man to blackmail and bribe people in the afterlife . How often do you see our presidents or prime ministers in a Holy place quite often when they want to appear humble .. but ask them to donate to anything and their wallets are at home .

See what you have to realise God never changed we did , we got wise to the power of the Church , after all who is the richest landowner /landlord in the World . Give unto Caesar what is Caesars , someone once said but get those fuckers out of the Church was somewhere in the Bible .. Man changed God and reinvented him ..
09-06-2016, 01:50 AM #24
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Of course I could be wrong but I will of course cover my options on my deathbed to cover all bases .. gonna be a Catholic Muslim rastafari Hindu just to be sure after all one of them might have a key .... wouldn't they ??
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09-06-2016, 05:17 PM #25
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(09-06-2016, 12:21 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(08-17-2016, 04:28 PM)Greatest I am Wrote:  
(08-13-2016, 07:13 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  Because the monotheist desert cults have ruled with violence and fear for 2,000 years.

Strange that those religions of peace and love could only grow themselves with violence instead of good deeds, yet retain the respect of so many.

It must be due to our natural love of drama and the epitome of that is war.

Regards
DL

More like a deep fear of eternal suffering in hell and the lake of fire. Oddly, it is that fabrication that started me away from Christianity.

I think that in my case it was the idiocy of talking animals and a God who could not forgive without having a son murdered/sacrificed.

I do see where the deep fear you speak of --- that is mostly exhibited by the less intelligent, would have people accept a free scapegoat so that they might have some other person take their responsibility from them.

Cowards.

Regards
DL
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09-06-2016, 05:24 PM #26
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(09-06-2016, 12:23 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(08-17-2016, 04:30 PM)Greatest I am Wrote:  
(08-13-2016, 07:14 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  But I'm not so sure I would agree with the "invent" part.

Perhaps this will help you accept the term.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynA

If not what term would you use?

Regards
DL

Considering the subject matter, I was thinking it is just as likely they were "visited" by the "gods".

The only way we can perceive anything is due to us creating a mental image or concept within our own minds.

Be the information a visit from a god or just a word one might accidentally hear, both concepts must be accepted by our minds and set into our mental image of things.

Here is how Gnostic Christianity speaks of such.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/.../mary.html

For where the mind is, there is the treasure.

The Saviour answered and said, 'He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind which [is] between the two - that is [what] sees the vision...'

Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

The supernatural should never have been introduced to any religion. Doing so makes them evil. That is why Gnostic Christianity remains in reality and nature and does not have any supernatural content.

Regards
DL
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09-06-2016, 05:31 PM #27
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(09-06-2016, 01:15 AM)saviour12631 Wrote:  
Quote:Gods were stopped when modern man realised that "Gods" Were not having the desired affect .

Eh. The vast majority of us still claim an affiliation to a church so perhaps you misuse the term, modern man.

Quote:We have to realise that God's are there really for the rich benefit ,after all you can be promised anything to make you do what the richest want . You want Riches god will give you that if you give your money to the rich .. you wantt virgins god will give you them if you slay our enemies .
Basically god exists for a bargaining tool for modern man to blackmail and bribe people in the afterlife . How often do you see our presidents or prime ministers in a Holy place quite often when they want to appear humble .. but ask them to donate to anything and their wallets are at home .

See what you have to realise God never changed we did , we got wise to the power of the Church , after all who is the richest landowner /landlord in the World . Give unto Caesar what is Caesars , someone once said but get those fuckers out of the Church was somewhere in the Bible .. Man changed God and reinvented him ..

No argument on this.

BTW, the guy in the bible that fits as saying, --- " someone once said but get those fuckers out of the Church", was Jesus.

Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath.

I extrapolate that he would also say that religions and gods were created for man and not man for them.

The church of course will not teach that lesson as it is way too Jewish for them and might lose them some cash.

Regards
DL
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09-06-2016, 05:34 PM #28
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(09-06-2016, 01:50 AM)saviour12631 Wrote:  Of course I could be wrong but I will of course cover my options on my deathbed to cover all bases .. gonna be a Catholic Muslim rastafari Hindu just to be sure after all one of them might have a key .... wouldn't they ??

All religions are based on lies.

Except mine of course, but like Jews, a Gnostic Christian will not be seen as a believer in a supernatural god, since we reject all supernatural phenomenon as lies.

Regards
DL
09-06-2016, 06:45 PM #29
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(09-06-2016, 05:34 PM)Greatest I am Wrote:  
(09-06-2016, 01:50 AM)saviour12631 Wrote:  Of course I could be wrong but I will of course cover my options on my deathbed to cover all bases .. gonna be a Catholic Muslim rastafari Hindu just to be sure after all one of them might have a key .... wouldn't they ??

All religions are based on lies.

Except mine of course, but like Jews, a Gnostic Christian will not be seen as a believer in a supernatural god, since we reject all supernatural phenomenon as lies.

Regards
DL

Of course they are DL ... My last statement was in jest .
The afterlife is built to entice us by the richest of the rich thru the centuries , by them saying work for us for peanuts... literally .. And you can buy your way into heaven like I am ... Egyptians had the same thing with their gods , but that is only bordering on the subject and there are questions there .
Religion is an enticement look who rewrote the bible the rich for the poor , but when religion becomes rich ... See so many opinions .
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09-06-2016, 06:53 PM #30
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(09-06-2016, 06:45 PM)saviour12631 Wrote:  
(09-06-2016, 05:34 PM)Greatest I am Wrote:  
(09-06-2016, 01:50 AM)saviour12631 Wrote:  Of course I could be wrong but I will of course cover my options on my deathbed to cover all bases .. gonna be a Catholic Muslim rastafari Hindu just to be sure after all one of them might have a key .... wouldn't they ??

All religions are based on lies.

Except mine of course, but like Jews, a Gnostic Christian will not be seen as a believer in a supernatural god, since we reject all supernatural phenomenon as lies.

Regards
DL

Of course they are DL ... My last statement was in jest .
The afterlife is built to entice us by the richest of the rich thru the centuries , by them saying work for us for peanuts... literally .. And you can buy your way into heaven like I am ... Egyptians had the same thing with their gods , but that is only bordering on the subject and there are questions there .
Religion is an enticement look who rewrote the bible the rich for the poor , but when religion becomes rich ... See so many opinions .

I hear you.

Jesus would flip if he saw what men have done with a sometimes moral theology.

Mind you, most morality left Christianity when they tied Jesus to Yahweh, a vile demiurge.

Regards
DL



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