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Will Indians ever get and reparation for what they went through?
08-18-2013, 05:44 PM #16
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(08-18-2013, 05:31 PM)Softy Wrote:  well now I would not like it,,,

and no way can it all be justified,,,

question is what are reparations???,,,

that is reparations,,,

not much,,,not fair,,,still,,,Indians have a saying,,,

You own what you can hold...

(:X


How long do a people remain victims? coffeetime.gif
08-18-2013, 08:50 PM #17
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
Nowadays,,,

no one is safe...

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08-19-2013, 01:11 AM #18
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
everything will be gone by then. tell them to move off the reservations and into the getto and start bitchin , the way the others do.13.gif
08-19-2013, 01:45 AM #19
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Quote Shadow : " How long do a people remain victims? "

Exactly .

people will remain Victims , exactly the same amount of time

as Bullies remain Bullies .

This Morning , as of this Morning , someone checked the stats
of what the Bullies have been up to across the Globe recently .

It appears that the advanced Military arm of the Western nations
are still applying the BULLY Tactics and the Victim Toll is

still on the rise .

Will Bullies ever have their asses put to an end ?

One sure cure for Bullies is to take their advantage away from them .

anything is possible ,,,

08-19-2013, 04:59 AM #20
Wicked Oblivion Member
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The native american indians who "went through it" are all long dead and gone...

The people who put them through it are also all long dead and gone...

Just like the african americans and their constant bickering and neverending complaining about demands for reparations about slaves and slavery when in reality anyone who was a slave and a slave owner are also all long dead and gone...

It must not be forgotten that the africans were capturing and selling their own people to the europeans and middle easterners...

And so in reality they're angry at themselves and they're upset about their own denials...
08-19-2013, 05:14 AM #21
quil Member
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bottom line is everything is what it is....where do we go from here.....my tupa (grandmother) once told me everything is what it is for a reason, the ancestors knew what was coming it was inevitable.
what i am saying is if you want to live by the so call colonial philosophy then to steal is "illegal" not unlawful , for unlawful and illegal are two different concepts in the world of commerce. QUIL -V- Quil. Then according to legal all of turtle island or north america belongs to native, even all material that was consumed from mother earth on turtle island. now OKA , Williams Lake, Wounded knee, Caledonia, people or the main stream public cry because they fear indian violence when trying to controvert laws and regulations of De Facto Corporations called Countries like Canada and United states of America.
until one lives on a reservation and knows not the conditioning do not judge one by telling them to just move of the rez.
you cage something for a long period of time then when the cage is removed the caged will not know no other.
So here we are today, i personally feel no ethnic group in todays world will be shunned from what we are all up against in the near future. Then and only then only the Strong will be the one's that will go into tomorrow. and i do prepare for that day and cant wait lol....

08-19-2013, 09:19 AM #22
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(08-18-2013, 12:31 PM)quil Wrote:  
(08-17-2013, 11:46 PM)Softy Wrote:  The tribes get to have Casinos when no one else can,,,

the tribes have resorts and ski resorts,,,

own the hunting and fishing on their land,,,

have their own law and enforcement,,,

they get free Medical and Dental,,,

they get free Money,,,

they get free College,,,

small compensation,,,for the damage done,,,

but probably more than most conquered get...
i
(:X

united states indians are quasi sovereign while canadian injuns have no standing what so ever. and as far as free money, housing , medical etc etc......if i come and take your families land holdings away and put u in a corner and give you bits and pieces of what i have tooken from your family and not let you travel freely like your forefathers have been doing for thousands of years because as far as i am conserned your are part of MY country not yours, what would you feel about that?


I'd feel like something is better than nothing.

Some of my ancestors were Irish. The Irish got treated like sh!t by the Brits and starved to death off and on for 400 years. The Irish had no rights or very few rights. The Brits have never given me so much as penny in reparations.

Do you see me bitching about the Brits? No, of course not. So stop complaining and get on with your life. The world was full of murder, slavery and depravity all over the world. There are still lots of places in the world that are pretty brutal. You're lucky to be here and not there.

The US is a new experiment which has been an improvement over previous times - not perfect, an improvement We are in the process of ending that experiment, replacing it with a dictator and a little tyranny. But that is another story.

Pray for me. hug.gif
08-19-2013, 10:03 AM #23
Accidental Stoner Member
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(08-18-2013, 01:18 PM)Octo Wrote:  Yes welcome cheers.gif Nice thing you found us.

Now the Native Americans aren't of course the only natives to have been persecuted, over here we have or ouwn natives, the Sami people who were pretty much objected to the same sort of treatment. Ok, I don't think they received blankets, but pretty bad and shameful behavior anyway.


Hm...well, the Saami weren't really targets of organized
mass extinction like the indians. But the forced de-culturing
of Saami children went on up until the 70's, no..? And some
noitas did get killed and their drums burned, yes.

As for Finland's pre-Christian history, I think the emergence
of the Church brought more conflict than hundreds of years
of living next to fenno-ugric and germanic tribes (us).
(Trust me, Swedo-germanic folks were here as soon as they
figured out how to cross the water. It ain't that big - never
was.)

Seems like alcohol was a veritable WMD, too.

There simply are no records of mass violence between others
and the Saami, are there?
08-19-2013, 02:01 PM #24
Octo Mother Superior
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No, there are no records of such for several reasons.

Cultural tradition was mainly oral and nobody wrote it down. They didn't care to leave traces behind so all is decomposed.

Seriously, I'm not sure if any knowledge of pre-christian time in Finland times exists. We were basically climbing trees, and using squirrel skins as currency. Or so we're told 13.gif
08-19-2013, 02:50 PM #25
j browsing Member
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http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/scot.../index.asp here is one of my mom's ancestors..one of the reasons her family was "cleared" and sent into dismal poverty and starvation..it even continued until the 20th century when my grandfather was murdered here in Michigan by a "foreigner" never did catch the animal that murdered my grandfather he probably went back to Scotland and was protected..other members of my mom's clan had been previously sold into slavery damned.gif

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08-19-2013, 02:59 PM #26
j browsing Member
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http://newspapers.rawson.lib.mi.us/chron...1923_1.pdf my grandfathers murder ..look to the left where it says mystery shrouds

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08-19-2013, 03:04 PM #27
Wicked Oblivion Member
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Heres something else they went through...

I think indians use to (still do?) decide the names for their children based upon the first thing their fathers saw right after their babies were born...

Like "Kicking Deer" and "Running Bear" and "Whispering Owl" and "Talking Stream" and "Two Dogs F###ing"

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08-19-2013, 03:19 PM #28
j browsing Member
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http://www.electricscotland.com/history/...lavery.htm history of scots and irish sold into slavery damned.gif

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