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Will Scotland Secede from the UK?
09-17-2014, 02:22 AM #1
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
09-17-2014, 09:02 AM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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I doubt it 13.gif
09-17-2014, 10:31 AM #3
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Won't happen. I see the media saying "too close to call" to psychologically prepare them when they... *ahem* "win" by a small margin.
I saw the same go on when Bush was "elected"

09-17-2014, 03:22 PM #4
misterbumps Member
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If this goes ahead then Scotland will not be able to use the Pound thanks to Westminster blackmail so I suggest the Scots contact Putin and see if they can use the Ruble.....

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
09-17-2014, 03:49 PM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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Hello misterbumps! yay.gif Long time no see, I hope you're doing well.

And you're probably right about that. They're not going to make this a pleasant experience for the Scots. damned.gif
09-17-2014, 03:49 PM #6
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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cheers.gif Hey Mr. B! Great to see you, hope all has been good with you and yours.

09-17-2014, 07:20 PM #7
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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If it's true that 75% of business will disappear from Scotland (as far as I could decipher through their thick accents) if they do secede, that may be a big enough threat to make a difference to voters. If they do secede, I hope they have an action plan for future prosperity.

09-17-2014, 07:43 PM #8
Octo Mother Superior
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I suspect Scotland too has been hit by economic hard time just as the rest of Europe.

Not sure how rosy this outlook is, but I think the Scots would do just fine on their own.
Quote:Scotland's total GDP was $240 billion in the year to first quarter of 2014, around 8% of total UK GDP. Scotland's economic output per head is also the highest in the UK outside London and the South East of England, according to national statistics.
Scotland has certain unique industries which are incredibly important to it, but from Westminster point of view are lower down the agenda.
Kenny Anderson

Beyond oil, a global taste for Scottish whisky boosts its economy, with food and drink making up nearly a fifth of its $40 billion exports internationally, government figures show. Scotland exports a further $75 billion worth of goods and services into the UK -- which, the pro-independence camp says, means an independent country could claim to be a significant global exporter.

09-17-2014, 07:48 PM #9
Octo Mother Superior
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YES: The nationalists insist an independent Scotland would not be over-reliant on oil. They believe the UK Government has squandered most of the North Sea oil revenues by failing to establish a fund for the money to be invested. Under independence, they say, such a fund would be created. This would also help to get around the problem of oil’s volatility from year to year. To win over the industry, Scotland’s Energy Minister, Fergus Ewing, recently hinted that oil and gas firms could benefit from new tax breaks if Scotland became independent.


Norway has such a fund and I believe some pro-independence Scots would like to introduce a Scandinavian type system.
09-17-2014, 07:51 PM #10
Octo Mother Superior
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Quote:The Government Pension Fund – Global (Norwegian: Statens pensjonsfond – Utland, SPU) is a fund into which the surplus wealth produced by Norwegian petroleum income is deposited. The fund changed name in January 2006 from its previous name, The Petroleum Fund of Norway. The fund is commonly referred to as The Oil Fund (Norwegian: Oljefondet). As of the valuation in June 2011, it was the largest pension fund in the world, although it is not actually a pension fund as it derives its financial backing from oil profits and not pension contributions. As of June 30, 2014 its total value is NOK 5.478 trillion[1] ($889.1 billion), holding one percent of global equity markets.[2] With 1.78 percent of European stocks,[2] it is said to be the largest stock owner in Europe.[3]

The purpose of the petroleum fund is to invest parts of the large surplus generated by the Norwegian petroleum sector, generated mainly from taxes of companies, but also payment for license to explore as well as the State's Direct Financial Interest and dividends from partly state-owned Statoil. Current revenue from the petroleum sector is estimated to be at its peak period and to decline over the next decades. The Petroleum Fund was established in 1990 after a decision by the country's legislature to counter the effects of the forthcoming decline in income and to smooth out the disruptive effects of highly fluctuating oil prices.

09-18-2014, 03:09 AM #11
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
Dislike of the English in Scotland has always been high. After Culloden Field it was pretty much genocide in the Highlands. England has been trying to subdue Scotland since Longshanks. and that movie, Braveheart, was so hysterically incorrect it isn't funny. I'd say Scots want independence and will vote that way but it isn't who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes.
09-18-2014, 05:02 PM #12
Octo Mother Superior
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I'm very convinced the Scots are perfectly capable of running their own country.
09-18-2014, 06:19 PM #13
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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Any hints yet on how the polls are going?
09-18-2014, 06:53 PM #14
Octo Mother Superior
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Last poll puts yes on 47%, no on 53%


09-18-2014, 07:10 PM #15
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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