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Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
02-27-2011, 09:03 PM #16
bohica Member
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It appears we live in interesting times.

There's plenty of room for all God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes!
02-27-2011, 10:30 PM #17
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wave.gif Interesting times indeed! Hey Bohica, good to see you!

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02-27-2011, 11:47 PM #18
Kreeper Griobhtha
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With the recent health issues, I had forgotten about this topic. First chance I get, I will go over to WTF and read the article Prom posted. I could only glance over it last weekend, but the general gist I got was that they were operating as a union should.

That said, I want to state that I am not anti-union. I feel that unions have been of great benefit in the past. I have worked many places that could dearly use a union. I have also seen, first hand, how the unions get out of control. Therein lies the problem. They typically don't know when to quit. They ask for more and more until the employees are grossly overpaid and the products they manufacture are grossly over priced and consumers are left paying the bill until the company says "ğck it" and moves operations over seas. If this were not a rampant problem, I would completely support unions.

It seems that employers would look at the most successful companies and see how they treat their employees. The better you treat your workers the better they will treat you. It has been proven time and again that happy employees equal loyalty and higher productivity.

 
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02-28-2011, 12:07 AM #19
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(02-27-2011, 11:47 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  It seems that employers would look at the most successful companies and see how they treat their employees. The better you treat your workers the better they will treat you. It has been proven time and again that happy employees equal loyalty and higher productivity.


Absolute truth I used to mange over a few guys and if you treat people with respect, pay them ok and make them feel part of the team its surprising what can be accomplished. Sorry to hear about the health issue still bugging you!cheers.gif get well now damnit! chuckle.gif

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02-28-2011, 01:04 AM #20
Kreeper Griobhtha
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It's much better now!

Still nagging a bit, but much better.


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And the people bowed and prayed
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02-28-2011, 02:33 AM #21
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(02-28-2011, 01:04 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  It's much better now!

Still nagging a bit, but much better.


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cheers.gif Glad to hear it! Those things can take time.

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02-28-2011, 10:37 AM #22
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Hmmmm...hard time trusting the Pol-Ice, I have.

Damn, officially armed state branch people taking sides
against authority.
Sounds like the build-ups of many old civil wars.
Hope it doesn't go horribly wrong over there....

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02-28-2011, 01:40 PM #23
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hi5.gif Glad to see you made it AS! Nice avatar!doobie.gif

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02-28-2011, 03:04 PM #24
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Hej AS! hug.gif Good point to not trust police. What's the saying? Keep your allies close and your enemies closer.
02-28-2011, 04:00 PM #25
Octo Mother Superior
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(02-28-2011, 03:04 PM)Shadow Wrote:  Hej AS! hug.gif Good point to not trust police. What's the saying? Keep your allies close and your enemies closer.

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02-28-2011, 11:02 PM #26
Kreeper Griobhtha
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It's hard to say about the police in this case. In general, the people of this state are unlike anywhere I have ever lived.These are truly honest, hard working, down to earth people. There is a reason we just had a 31 year low crime rate. Seriously, it was nearly disturbing when we first moved here and took a bit of getting used to. No, really. Even the businesses operate that way. Hell, you can still pull up to nearly any convenience store or gas station and get free air! If the police have the same mentality, I could see them doing the right thing.

 
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
02-28-2011, 11:13 PM #27
JR Incognito Anonymous
 
(02-28-2011, 11:02 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  In general, the people of this state are unlike anywhere I have ever lived.These are truly honest, hard working, down to earth people.

That was the way people were in Indiana too, Florida was a totally different experience though.
03-01-2011, 12:31 AM #28
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Quote:Capitol Building Still Closed, Windows Welded Shut, Other Shenanigans

bit more on the fast-moving story in the Capitol Building in Madison, Wisconsin:

• Clearly Scott Walker and the Capitol police are trying to deprive protesters of having access to the building. Both Defend Wisconsin and a coalition of labor unions have filed lawsuits and other enforcement actions. Defend Wisconsin went to US District Court to try to pry open the Capitol. Labor is filing for a temporary restraining order (TRO).

• Meanwhile, Capitol Police staff are welding the windows shut. The lack of access to the Capitol means that food and supplies cannot be sent in to those who remain. People inside can leave the Capitol building but not return, at least for the moment. So people had been passing food and other supplies through the windows. So according to multiple witnesses, the windows are being welded shut to break down the supply line. Attorneys for labor unions are collecting affidavits on this, as well as the illegal denial of access into a public building, which under the Wisconsin state constitution is prohibited. The victory of last night is turning into a very bitter one indeed.

• These are the type of things going on out there:

A cancer patient needing a colostomy bag change — a medical emergency — was denied access to the Capitol building holding the patient’s medication due to a surprise lockdown that has lasted for hours past the scheduled and well-publicized 8:00 AM doors-open time Monday morning.

This patient was kept outside for 80 minutes in the cold while Walker flexed his political muscle and ordered DOA to close the Capitol during normally-open daytime business hours in order to gradually muffle the overwhelming dissent of his proposed legislation, which denies health care to many of our most vulnerable citizens, including many children, and strips unionized workers of collective bargaining rights for which people have fought and died for decades.

• Meanwhile, the Senate Republicans have stepped up their pressure to try to get the Democrats to return. Now the Senate Majority Leader is basically holding their staff hostage:

Madison — Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald is clamping down on absent Democrats by seeking to take control of whether or not their staffers get paid.

Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) would have to review and approve timesheets for Democratic staffers, under a proposal put before a legislative committee Monday morning. Previously, Democratic lawmakers had signed off on their staff’s hours.

I’ve heard also that Fitzgerald may just fire the staffers after getting control of their pay.

link

damned.gifWelding the windows shut?wtf2.gif

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03-01-2011, 12:43 AM #29
yankees skier
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sure, welding windows shut sounds good, until they don't shower for a few days.

Biere.
03-01-2011, 12:45 AM #30
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(03-01-2011, 12:43 AM)yankees Wrote:  sure, welding windows shut sounds good, until they don't shower for a few days.

37.gif Welding windows shut are things that happen in zombie movies!

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