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back up cameras ..all vehicles 2018
04-01-2014, 03:51 PM #1
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Washington — The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Monday finalized long-delayed rules that will require automakers to install back-up cameras in all vehicles by May 2018.

The new rules set rear visibility standards that automakers will initially be able to meet only by installing cameras. At the same time, major automakers said Monday they are petitioning the Obama administration to let them end the use of side view mirrors if they install cameras that could perform the same task — a move that could improve fuel efficiency.

Since it was first proposed, the cost of hardware has come down as more cameras have been added to certain models. Honda Motor Co. and Subaru Motor Co. both announced they are making the cameras standard in all vehicles, and they will be standard on the 2015 Ford Focus, due out later this year.

After taking office, Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx championed this with the White House to win sign-off to finalize the rule. The regulation was initially supposed to be final by September 2014 and cost the auto industry $1.9 billion to $2.7 billion annually. Under the new rules, the annual costs in 2018 will be between $546 million and $924 million, while the benefits will be between $265 million to $595 million. NHTSA predicts 59 to 73 percent of all vehicles purchased in 2018 would have had the cameras anyway.

The final regulation came one day before a federal appeals court was to hear arguments from safety advocates seeking to compel NHTSA to set the rules.



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140...z2xdeSHms2

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04-01-2014, 03:54 PM #2
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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I hope rear view mirrors are not going to be abandoned. They never short out, or get ice on them. They cost a lot less than cam systems as well.
I wonder if they will make you pay a tax if your car is too old to have the new system? coffeetime.gif

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04-01-2014, 04:17 PM #3
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I think installing sensors to alert the driver of many potential driving mishaps is a great idea. I was watching a car commercial and one maker (can't remember which one) has a new car with a front sensor that can detect the movements of a car that is two car lengths ahead, so as to give you a 'heads up' to begin braking.
04-01-2014, 04:25 PM #4
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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It's crazy, one more thing to go wrong. How about eyes and paying attention if the car in front of you has it's brake lights on? rofl.gif Just one more way to make people less self sufficient.
04-01-2014, 04:33 PM #5
Octo Mother Superior
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How will people who don't pay attention in the first place be able to pay attention to indicator lights and beeps in addition to their surroundings? 13.gif
04-01-2014, 04:45 PM #6
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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When I am driving in the fast lane, I'm watching out for idiots coming beside me to cut me off suddenly, the guy behind me riding my behind with two inches to spare, as well as the speed and actions of the car in front of me, so it would be nice if there was a beeper warning me that the car two lengths ahead is braking. Driving in these times, especially when it's rush hour all the time, is crazy stressful and chaotic.
04-01-2014, 04:49 PM #7
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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So glad I don't live in a big city. I drive in Vancouver okay (Whaler does not lmao.gif ) but to face that everyday? damned.gif
04-01-2014, 04:51 PM #8
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-01-2014, 04:49 PM)Shadow Wrote:  So glad I don't live in a big city. I drive in Vancouver okay (Whaler does not lmao.gif ) but to face that everyday? damned.gif

Yeah, now you know why I am the way I am. chuckle.gif
04-01-2014, 04:51 PM #9
Octo Mother Superior
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Two car lengths between you and the car in front of you is not very much in the fast lane. damned.gif I like to keep it at least 50 meters.
04-01-2014, 05:02 PM #10
j browsing Member
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crazy the way folks drive here in Michigan..my camera and sensors saved my butt more than once..in the parking lot of the grocery store..people just walk behind and pay no attention to someone backing out..and then give me the bird cuz I didn't see them 13.gif

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04-01-2014, 05:11 PM #11
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-01-2014, 04:51 PM)Octo Wrote:  Two car lengths between you and the car in front of you is not very much in the fast lane. damned.gif I like to keep it at least 50 meters.

Sorry for the confusion Octo, I meant the car in front of the car in front of me...still confusing. During rush hour we are riding each other's back ends with little reaction time to spare. damned.gif
04-01-2014, 05:12 PM #12
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-01-2014, 05:02 PM)j browsing Wrote:  crazy the way folks drive here in Michigan..my camera and sensors saved my butt more than once..in the parking lot of the grocery store..people just walk behind and pay no attention to someone backing out..and then give me the bird cuz I didn't see them 13.gif

Same here, in shopping mall parking lots, I look three times then when I start backing up (without a camera) a woman pushing a baby carriage usually appears out of no where.
04-01-2014, 05:39 PM #13
yankees skier
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I have backup cameras in my two cars, I like them.

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04-01-2014, 05:47 PM #14
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04-02-2014, 02:07 AM #15
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They always tell us to keep our eyes through the windshield and on the road and not to be distracted by anything else,but at the same time they keep filling up their new vehicle interiors with all sorts of digital electronic toys that are really nothing but unnecessary attention distractors and sooner or later we'll all be driving robots that will actually be driving us around and we'll have no control over them whenever they malfunction and crash and main and cripple and kill us...

Quote:The head of General Motors said on Tuesday she was "deeply sorry" about the recall of millions of her company's cars for a defect blamed for at least 13 deaths and that she was disturbed by past GM comments that the cost of replacing defective switches in some cars was too high.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/gm-reca...all-n69031



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