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12-11-2013, 04:53 PM #1
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A Staten Island woman has sued the city claiming police entered her St. George home without a warrant, beat her family and killed her beloved pet parakeet, according to court documents.

Last year, Evelyn Lugo's bird, Tito, was thrown from his cage after it was knocked off a dresser as cops came into her Corson Avenue home, the Daily News first reported.

The officers then stepped on the bird intentionally, killing it, court documents say.

Officers also beat two of Lugo's sons, her daughter and a family friend, the lawsuit claims.

According to court documents, police entered Lugo's home on Sept. 2, 2012, as her family was celebrating Labor Day.http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20131210...wsuit-says

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12-11-2013, 05:14 PM #2
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I read that, it's brutal. Cops are just whackin off whomever they feel like and getting away with it. These cops were completly in the wrong according to the story but they'll get away with.
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12-11-2013, 05:20 PM #3
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12-11-2013, 07:48 PM #4
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Poor parakeet>
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12-11-2013, 08:04 PM #5
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12-11-2013, 08:12 PM #6
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Hopefully they get some street justice.
12-11-2013, 10:03 PM #7
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We don't know if this report is true or not. The significant thing here is we have all see so many proven true reports about police murder and violence that any story is believable.

Here's the real question. When did the police start to be the ones we fear and hate?

I think is was under Clinton, and has intensified ever sense.

We need to fire the lot of them and start all over.

Just my opinion.

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12-11-2013, 10:20 PM #8
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Was it an attack parakeet?

...you know those things can peck your eye out!
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12-11-2013, 11:57 PM #9
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maybe all citizens should be police, when something goes wrong we all get together to figure it out, not some intimidating bully who gets underpaid and deals with violence all the time that they become addicted to the adrenaline and soon start enjoying killing and beating people! Makes a little sense, right?
12-12-2013, 12:24 AM #10
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Just speculating here, but people with stressful jobs dealing with personal emergencies on a daily basis have to cope with it somehow. A sense of humor helps a lot, there has to be a release for what is experienced during work. A sense of humor is also a sign of intelligence, something the police force doesn't value much. 13.gif
12-12-2013, 02:51 AM #11
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So, for no reason at all, cops busted into their house, broke some windows, beat up the family and stomped their bird?


Uh huh...


And what is the rest of the story?


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12-12-2013, 05:15 AM #12
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(12-12-2013, 03:44 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(12-12-2013, 02:51 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  So, for no reason at all, cops busted into their house, broke some windows, beat up the family and stomped their bird?


Uh huh...


And what is the rest of the story?


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This case took place last year. If the police dropped all the charges and are "still reviewing the case," you can figure out it was a case of police brutality.



Ok...yes they went to far...but how many on here have been asked for ID by the police, refused to show any and have then ran away from them? I'm not arguing whether or not they can legally ask for it. I'm asking if you've refused and then ran away. Once he ran...he gave them probable cause to follow and then proceed to do what they did. Like I said earlier...they went to far. Even if I was in a parked car not running and an officer asks me for ID...I'm gonna show it to him and explain why I'm parked there. If I decide my rights are more important I could start the car up and race off. You know he's gonna follow me...right? Sooner or later if I don't pullover...I'll have the pit maneuver pulled on me and potentially lose my life all for not showing a simple ID. People do that all the time now too. What you usually find out is that person is a weasel that has done something to make him run whether it's a new crime or a parole violation from a past crime. We'll really never know what really happened as both parties ALWAYS embellish their stories especially when it comes to either getting in trouble OR filing lawsuits. I'm not saying I'm smarter than the average bear...but I would've pulled out my ID and shown them. Don't have it on you...they can come back up to the apartment so you can get it. There are areas that have spent decades of collecting free welfare money and teaching their kids to hate police even if they haven't had any dealings with them. I have family members like that too. Are there people on this forum that had there parents teaching them to hate the police and to run whenever they asked for ID? Are you teaching your children the same? I'm just curious as most people that I know don't do that. I do find that many times the ones that do have constant run ins with the police, have been arrested, have done prison time and most times have drugs and/or weapons on them that are violating their parole. I'm just sayin that simply showing them a piece of plastic instead of running and then having their bird killed and family members beaten could've been avoided. But apparently this model citizen felt he was justified in protecting his rights and involving his entire family with the skirmish. On top of it all...if this family wasn't on the police's radar...right or wrong...they definitely will be now.
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12-12-2013, 06:33 AM #13
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(12-12-2013, 05:28 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(12-12-2013, 05:15 AM)van down by the river Wrote:  
(12-12-2013, 03:44 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(12-12-2013, 02:51 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  So, for no reason at all, cops busted into their house, broke some windows, beat up the family and stomped their bird?


Uh huh...


And what is the rest of the story?


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This case took place last year. If the police dropped all the charges and are "still reviewing the case," you can figure out it was a case of police brutality.



Ok...yes they went to far...but how many on here have been asked for ID by the police, refused to show any and have then ran away from them? I'm not arguing whether or not they can legally ask for it. I'm asking if you've refused and then ran away. Once he ran...he gave them probable cause to follow and then proceed to do what they did. Like I said earlier...they went to far. Even if I was in a parked car not running and an officer asks me for ID...I'm gonna show it to him and explain why I'm parked there. If I decide my rights are more important I could start the car up and race off. You know he's gonna follow me...right? Sooner or later if I don't pullover...I'll have the pit maneuver pulled on me and potentially lose my life all for not showing a simple ID. People do that all the time now too. What you usually find out is that person is a weasel that has done something to make him run whether it's a new crime or a parole violation from a past crime. We'll really never know what really happened as both parties ALWAYS embellish their stories especially when it comes to either getting in trouble OR filing lawsuits. I'm not saying I'm smarter than the average bear...but I would've pulled out my ID and shown them. Don't have it on you...they can come back up to the apartment so you can get it. There are areas that have spent decades of collecting free welfare money and teaching their kids to hate police even if they haven't had any dealings with them. I have family members like that too. Are there people on this forum that had there parents teaching them to hate the police and to run whenever they asked for ID? Are you teaching your children the same? I'm just curious as most people that I know don't do that. I do find that many times the ones that do have constant run ins with the police, have been arrested, have done prison time and most times have drugs and/or weapons on them that are violating their parole. I'm just sayin that simply showing them a piece of plastic instead of running and then having their bird killed and family members beaten could've been avoided. But apparently this model citizen felt he was justified in protecting his rights and involving his entire family with the skirmish. On top of it all...if this family wasn't on the police's radar...right or wrong...they definitely will be now.
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Not sure why you're rationalizing what the police did when the police themselves weren't able to rationalize themselves.

It's not probably cause to run from the police when there is no crime committed. I don't know about yo, but I don't take my ID with me to take out the trash.

You do NOT have to give your ID to a police officer unless you're driving a car and you've committed a violation. They know that.


I would show them the ID to avoid all the problems he invited into his mother's home. I said 3 times they went to far. I'm not rationalizing anything for anyone. What I'm saying is that the problems could've been avoided AND most times are just by showing them a piece of plastic. If he or you believe your rights are more important and you run...then you have got to know that trouble is following you. It's fine...fight for your rights. I also asked if anyone on here is teaching their own children to do the same as this guy did. I just don't think that most citizens do this. Hows about another scenario that involves my rights to walk into the predominately black neighborhood of Hilltop in Tacoma,WA at 2 am in the morning. I'm real white and won't be asked for ID...they're gonna want the whole wallet and if I refuse and run...I will most certainly be beaten and possibly killed. I could've avoided the whole thing by not putting myself in that position even though I was doing nothing wrong. Or try this one...if you see someone you don't know walking back and forth in front of your house and maybe near your vehicle wouldn't you maybe wonder why or maybe even ask him? You shouldn't though...right? Cause he hasn't done anything...right? What would you do if he takes off running? Will you chase him? Hopefully not...but you may be wondering and/or concerned why he was seemingly casing your car or house. You can't prove he was doing anything...but it kinda looked like it. You might even take a look at your car or home to see if something was amiss. Will you call and report a prowler? I'm just saying that in certain areas with higher than normal crime rates...people can AND do many times look suspicious and many times have done something that would warrant their running away from the police OR from you. WHY WHY do people put themselves in positions to have bad things happen to them? I've seen your postings and many of the regulars on here and you as well as them seem like intelligent people that DO NOT put yourselves in a position like the dufus in this story did. OK OK...the police went to far...but could it have been avoided by a rational thinking person? The police action in the home isn't being rationalized and is secondary in this story as it would never have happened if the guy simply showed them his ID. Like I said earlier...this model citizen must have figured his rights were more important than his family's safety. Again...have you pulled this stunt with police or have any others on here tried it?

I remember a thread or post by this forum's poster named cynicalabsurdance about being hassled by police when he was sleeping in a van or car by I think a beach area. As much as he despises the law and government...I didn't see him talking about giving the police a hassle so as to get arrested. He probably showed them (no matter how reluctantly) his ID when asked. You know why...cause he didn't want it to escalate to him beaing beaten, tazed, arrested OR shot in some stupid altercation with the law. He was smart and remained unharmed and not shackled to live to sell some more stuff online and to sail away with his canine whenever he feels like it.

P.S. Also...any talk about the US being a police state "now" has either lived a sheltered life, are really naive, or maybe a little young. The asking for ID sh!t has been going on looooong before the posters here, this family or the officers were even around. It's the advent of instant video that's finally bringing more of their buffoonery to light.

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12-12-2013, 10:01 PM #14
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(12-12-2013, 07:32 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(12-12-2013, 06:33 AM)van down by the river Wrote:  
(12-12-2013, 05:28 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(12-12-2013, 05:15 AM)van down by the river Wrote:  
(12-12-2013, 03:44 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  This case took place last year. If the police dropped all the charges and are "still reviewing the case," you can figure out it was a case of police brutality.



Ok...yes they went to far...but how many on here have been asked for ID by the police, refused to show any and have then ran away from them? I'm not arguing whether or not they can legally ask for it. I'm asking if you've refused and then ran away. Once he ran...he gave them probable cause to follow and then proceed to do what they did. Like I said earlier...they went to far. Even if I was in a parked car not running and an officer asks me for ID...I'm gonna show it to him and explain why I'm parked there. If I decide my rights are more important I could start the car up and race off. You know he's gonna follow me...right? Sooner or later if I don't pullover...I'll have the pit maneuver pulled on me and potentially lose my life all for not showing a simple ID. People do that all the time now too. What you usually find out is that person is a weasel that has done something to make him run whether it's a new crime or a parole violation from a past crime. We'll really never know what really happened as both parties ALWAYS embellish their stories especially when it comes to either getting in trouble OR filing lawsuits. I'm not saying I'm smarter than the average bear...but I would've pulled out my ID and shown them. Don't have it on you...they can come back up to the apartment so you can get it. There are areas that have spent decades of collecting free welfare money and teaching their kids to hate police even if they haven't had any dealings with them. I have family members like that too. Are there people on this forum that had there parents teaching them to hate the police and to run whenever they asked for ID? Are you teaching your children the same? I'm just curious as most people that I know don't do that. I do find that many times the ones that do have constant run ins with the police, have been arrested, have done prison time and most times have drugs and/or weapons on them that are violating their parole. I'm just sayin that simply showing them a piece of plastic instead of running and then having their bird killed and family members beaten could've been avoided. But apparently this model citizen felt he was justified in protecting his rights and involving his entire family with the skirmish. On top of it all...if this family wasn't on the police's radar...right or wrong...they definitely will be now.
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Not sure why you're rationalizing what the police did when the police themselves weren't able to rationalize themselves.

It's not probably cause to run from the police when there is no crime committed. I don't know about yo, but I don't take my ID with me to take out the trash.

You do NOT have to give your ID to a police officer unless you're driving a car and you've committed a violation. They know that.


I would show them the ID to avoid all the problems he invited into his mother's home. I said 3 times they went to far. I'm not rationalizing anything for anyone. What I'm saying is that the problems could've been avoided AND most times are just by showing them a piece of plastic. If he or you believe your rights are more important and you run...then you have got to know that trouble is following you. It's fine...fight for your rights. I also asked if anyone on here is teaching their own children to do the same as this guy did. I just don't think that most citizens do this. Hows about another scenario that involves my rights to walk into the predominately black neighborhood of Hilltop in Tacoma,WA at 2 am in the morning. I'm real white and won't be asked for ID...they're gonna want the whole wallet and if I refuse and run...I will most certainly be beaten and possibly killed. I could've avoided the whole thing by not putting myself in that position even though I was doing nothing wrong. Or try this one...if you see someone you don't know walking back and forth in front of your house and maybe near your vehicle wouldn't you maybe wonder why or maybe even ask him? You shouldn't though...right? Cause he hasn't done anything...right? What would you do if he takes off running? Will you chase him? Hopefully not...but you may be wondering and/or concerned why he was seemingly casing your car or house. You can't prove he was doing anything...but it kinda looked like it. You might even take a look at your car or home to see if something was amiss. Will you call and report a prowler? I'm just saying that in certain areas with higher than normal crime rates...people can AND do many times look suspicious and many times have done something that would warrant their running away from the police OR from you. WHY WHY do people put themselves in positions to have bad things happen to them? I've seen your postings and many of the regulars on here and you as well as them seem like intelligent people that DO NOT put yourselves in a position like the dufus in this story did. OK OK...the police went to far...but could it have been avoided by a rational thinking person? The police action in the home isn't being rationalized and is secondary in this story as it would never have happened if the guy simply showed them his ID. Like I said earlier...this model citizen must have figured his rights were more important than his family's safety. Again...have you pulled this stunt with police or have any others on here tried it?

I remember a thread or post by this forum's poster named cynicalabsurdance about being hassled by police when he was sleeping in a van or car by I think a beach area. As much as he despises the law and government...I didn't see him talking about giving the police a hassle so as to get arrested. He probably showed them (no matter how reluctantly) his ID when asked. You know why...cause he didn't want it to escalate to him beaing beaten, tazed, arrested OR shot in some stupid altercation with the law. He was smart and remained unharmed and not shackled to live to sell some more stuff online and to sail away with his canine whenever he feels like it.

P.S. Also...any talk about the US being a police state "now" has either lived a sheltered life, are really naive, or maybe a little young. The asking for ID sh!t has been going on looooong before the posters here, this family or the officers were even around. It's the advent of instant video that's finally bringing more of their buffoonery to light.

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I'm too tired to read long paragraphs tonight, so this comment will be limited to showing your driver's license. It's highly unlikely the guy had his driver's license on him while emptying the trash.

Secondly, the police have no right to your driver's license without probable cause. It's part of the 4th amendment to the Constitution. We are safe in our persons and papers unless there is PROBABLE CAUSE.

You do what you want. But don't expect others to ignore their rights.

Again...I would have to ask if you or anyone on here has refused to show ID and then run from police? And again...I said that if I didn't have my ID on me I would invite them to my apartment to show them my ID. Many if not most all people including us understand that they have no right to ask...but a rational thinking scofflaw and non-scofflaw alike should know that many police are like a hired goon squad. With that in mind...why would anyone get mouthy or pissy with the police over a piece of plastic? Why...knowing how some or many officers are would anyone want to put themselves in a position to get beaten or killed. Even just watching an episode of cops you see that EVERY person that runs has something to run for. Drugs, weapons and the ever popular warrant or parole violations. Ignoring your rights is one thing...ignoring the safety of your family or yourself takes another kind of person. We know how the police are and should be just smart enough to know not to mouth off and potentially be beaten over nothing. Some say that the police have training and should be professional. That may be right...but you do see that they hire more and more military vets that have had no UNtraining from being combat hardened. Like us...the cops are human and will make mistakes...but it's the non punishment of them that seems to make them more and more brazen as time goes by. Maybe we should be looking higher up to who's hiring and training these officers as well as what kind of psychological testing they're going through and the ones that are letting them off when in trouble. I still say...show them your ID and walk away unscathed or fight for your rights and have your bird killed and family beaten...cause it's the principle of the thing.

I'm also gonna take it as a resounding NO on anyone teaching this technique to their children OR a NO on anyone here practicing this exercise in standing up for your rights as nobody responded with a yes...yes I do.cheers.gif



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