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05-19-2017, 03:44 PM #46
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(05-19-2017, 03:37 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  The culture here and in most of Europe is men and women are equal, and there really isn't a feminist movement per se.

That's very interesting. Some of the older movies I've watched of WWII and later show Europeans having totally different perspectives on other races and women's capabilities. Although during WWII American women stepped up into the factories to keep the country going - I wonder if they were paid the same as the men who left for war were paid?
05-19-2017, 03:48 PM #47
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(05-19-2017, 03:37 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  The culture here and in most of Europe is men and women are equal, and there really isn't a feminist movement per se.

i thought that was what it is like here too...just the pay scale needs to be balanced.

and truthfully the only feminists ive seen are lesbians.
and what do they do? they turn into what they they hate=men.
they cut their hair short, dress, act, and even walk like men.
so, im really confused.
gaah.gif

and with that, ill leave the struggles to them and wander off.
good luck with all that!
05-19-2017, 03:50 PM #48
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(05-19-2017, 03:48 PM)eclipsed Wrote:  
(05-19-2017, 03:37 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  The culture here and in most of Europe is men and women are equal, and there really isn't a feminist movement per se.

i thought that was what it is like here too...just the pay scale needs to be balanced.

and truthfully the only feminists ive seen are lesbians.
and what do they do? they turn into what they they hate=men.
they cut their hair short, dress, act, and even walk like men.
so, im really confused.
gaah.gif

and with that, ill leave the struggles to them and wander off.
good luck with all that!

What they hate is patriarchy which they feel is still coursing through the almost blocked veins of society.
05-19-2017, 04:32 PM #49
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(05-18-2017, 01:32 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-17-2017, 11:45 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-17-2017, 11:37 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-17-2017, 08:08 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  That emote is widely used around the forums to paint all feminists as radical and out of control.

That's because all third wave feminists are.

If you look at the animated gif above, the one with the out of control feminist in the auditorium, I only see one (her) fighting mad, or giving an enthusiastic rah rah rah.

That's because nobody else in the clip is a feminist. The telling part is that she was showing her ass like that in protest of second wave feminist Christina Hoff Sommers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgvxQEp2DEM

The wildebeest you hear howling in the background is the infamous Trigglypuff in the gif and then two other tards.

In that clip, I see only one opinion counts and all others are to be silenced. Any way the fourth wave here now.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/119524-6...e-feminism

Quote:So what can the average person expect to learn about 4th wave feminism, watching the film?

I think people will leave the theatre knowing that women remain underrepresented in the art world and that feminist work remains largely on the fringes. It’s my hope that they will leave knowing that feminist art is alive and well, and that it didn’t die in the 1970s. It's thriving while going through a revival. One of the reasons I chose to open the film with a discussion of the lives and works of Hannah Wilke and Carolee Schneemann was to suggest this continuum, as I believe the younger generation is well aware of its place in the history of feminist art-making.

https://www.artslant.com/ny/articles/sho...erm=102615

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05-21-2017, 05:13 AM #50
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I can't wait for them to go under.

They're too cringy for me to read regularly, a liberal whinefest and there's no shortage of that elsewhere so they are hardly presenting a unique or particularly helpful perspective.

Good riddance. Wish they would just go already.
05-21-2017, 12:05 PM #51
Kreeper Griobhtha
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There is no gender pay gap. It is a feminist myth.

How about the viewpoint of a feminist that knows more than just talking points?



How about that of a career expert and author on the subject?

Why The Gender Pay Gap is a Complete Myth

Men are far more likely to choose careers that are more dangerous, so they naturally pay more.

Men are far more likely to work in higher-paying fields and occupations (by choice).

Men are far more likely to take work in uncomfortable, isolated, and undesirable locations that pay more.Men work longer hours than women do. The average fulltime working man works 6 hours per week or 15 percent longer than the average fulltime working woman.

Men are more likely to take jobs that require work on weekends and evenings and therefore pay more.

Even within the same career category, men are more likely to pursue high-stress and higher-paid areas of specialization.

Despite all of the above, unmarried women who've never had a child actually earn more than unmarried men, according to Nemko and data compiled from the Census Bureau.

Women business owners make less than half of what male business owners make, which, since they have no boss, means it's independent of discrimination. The reason for the disparity, according to a Rochester Institute of Technology study, is that money is the primary motivator for 76% of men versus only 29% of women. Women place a higher premium on shorter work weeks, proximity to home, fulfillment, autonomy, and safety, according to Nemko.

How about this from the Wall Street Journal?

There Is No Male-Female Wage Gap
A study of single, childless urban workers between the ages of 22 and 30 found that women earned 8% more than men.


It goes on and on. THERE IS NO GENDER PAY GAP.

Ask yourself this: If there were a 25% pay gap then why would anyone hire men?

Maybe I would have come to the same conclusion as you if I had used Google instead of Bing.

You are as equal to men as you will allow yourself to be. It must be hard to let go of that victim card.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
05-21-2017, 02:33 PM #52
Strigoi Member
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This gender pay gap must be a North American thing.

Un Strigoi printre noi
05-21-2017, 04:27 PM #53
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(05-21-2017, 02:33 PM)Strigoi Wrote:  This gender pay gap must be a North American thing.

It's not a thing at all. It is a fantasy excuse they cling to with the rest of their talking points.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
05-21-2017, 05:14 PM #54
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It is better now than it used to be. I worked in a company that typically paid women about 20% less than men. I don't know if it's still like that. I doubt it.

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05-22-2017, 01:35 AM #55
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(05-21-2017, 05:14 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  It is better now than it used to be. I worked in a company that typically paid women about 20% less than men. I don't know if it's still like that. I doubt it.

No. There are laws against it now.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
05-22-2017, 04:33 AM #56
Adde Member
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(05-22-2017, 01:35 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-21-2017, 05:14 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  It is better now than it used to be. I worked in a company that typically paid women about 20% less than men. I don't know if it's still like that. I doubt it.

No. There are laws against it now.

Actually men and women make the same here. I know people are going to hate me for saying the truth but there isn't pay discrimination like it used to be.
05-22-2017, 04:20 PM #57
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(05-22-2017, 04:33 AM)Adde Wrote:  
(05-22-2017, 01:35 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(05-21-2017, 05:14 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  It is better now than it used to be. I worked in a company that typically paid women about 20% less than men. I don't know if it's still like that. I doubt it.

No. There are laws against it now.

Actually men and women make the same here. I know people are going to hate me for saying the truth but there isn't pay discrimination like it used to be.

Oh, yes, there still is, but it is complex, just like everything.

Quote:But what often gets lost in translation is what the uncontrolled gap truly represents—that women are less likely to hold high-level, high-paying jobs than men. The more stubborn gap is one of opportunity rather than "equal pay for equal work." When we compare men and women who hold the same jobs, the median salaries are significantly closer and the pay gap becomes less substantial. But even then, there is a gap: the controlled gender pay gap. Nationally, when we control for job title, job level and other important influencers of wages (like years of work experience), women still only make 98 cents for every dollar earned by men.

There is some good news, however. In 2016, both the uncontrolled and controlled gender pay gaps shrunk, compared to 2015. Slightly. And that's a sign we're moving in the right direction.

http://www.payscale.com/data-packages/gender-pay-gap
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05-22-2017, 04:31 PM #58
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Salary is based on experience where I work. People get paid for what they know not so much what they do.
05-22-2017, 05:15 PM #59
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Yeah, I've always been paid on what I know.

Not much. chuckle.gif

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05-22-2017, 05:16 PM #60
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(05-22-2017, 05:15 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Yeah, I've always been paid on what I know.

Not much.   chuckle.gif

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I've always been paid on what I do know and that ain't hay.



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