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hospitals cut charity ...aca
05-26-2014, 05:52 PM #1
j browsing Member
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Hospital systems around the country have started scaling back financial assistance for lower- and middle-income people without health insurance, hoping to push them into signing up for coverage through the new online marketplaces created under the Affordable Care Act.

The trend is troubling to advocates for the uninsured, who say raising fees will inevitably cause some to skip care rather than buy insurance that they consider unaffordable. Though the number of hospitals tightening access to free or discounted care appears limited so far, many say they are considering doing so, and experts predict that stricter policies will become increasingly common.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/26/us/hos...ml?src=twr I knew this would happen damned.gif

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05-26-2014, 06:04 PM #2
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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So much wrong with US health care it boggles the mind.

In B.C.:
$0 - $22,000
$0.00

$22,001 - $24,000
$25.60

$24,001 - $26,000
$51.20

$26,001 - $28,000
$76.80

$28,001 - $30,000
$102.40

Over $30,000
$138.50

http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/msp/infoben/premium.html

All the above quotes are the MAX payable/mnth for a family of three or more. No co-pay and no deductible. And Canada is on the high end of the OECD average.

The problem? US h/c is a for profit industry.
05-26-2014, 06:30 PM #3
j browsing Member
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we have blue cross blue shield medigap..covers what medicare won't pay,,supposed to be non profit..but when they add in operating costs I really wonder how much they pad that 13.gif

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05-26-2014, 06:44 PM #4
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Talk about turn a mess into a crisis. It's almost like it was before, only now it's more expensive, and if you don't pay it, you pay a tax.
Healthcare... hardly, this is pay the insurance companies or pay the tax, this isn't any form of heathcare.

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05-26-2014, 07:20 PM #5
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WASHINGTON — Many employers had thought they could shift health costs to the government by sending their employees to a health insurance exchange with a tax-free contribution of cash to help pay premiums, but the Obama administration has squelched the idea in a new ruling. Such arrangements do not satisfy the health care law, the administration said, and employers may be subject to a tax penalty of $100 a day — or $36,500 a year — for each employee who goes into the individual marketplace.

The ruling this month, by the Internal Revenue Service, blocks any wholesale move by employers to dump employees into the exchanges.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/26/us/irs...anges.html I can see employers laying off a lot of workers..

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05-26-2014, 08:09 PM #6
Kreeper Griobhtha
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We just had a benefits meeting at work. Our individual deductibles went from $3K to $4K, co-pays went from $20-$30 ($50-$60 for specialists.) and premiums went up about $20 per month (To nearly $500 a month.). Only Dr visits or urgent care is covered. Any testing, er visits or hospital stays require the deductible be paid first. (All must be on their list or costs sky rocket.) I had the coverage for about 6 months and hey never paid a penny toward medical expenses. We had two insurance policies and they claimed that the other policy had paid enough so they didn't have to pay anything.

I told them they could keep that shït and will just stay with my wife's coverage.


Coincidentally, both policies are with BCBS.

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05-26-2014, 08:44 PM #7
j browsing Member
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damned.gif that is horrible kreeper....reminds me of the last employer plan my husband had it had a very high deductible and that was before the aca..

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