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if you were God on this planet, what would you do to hide your identity so no one would know or believe who you are?
09-25-2013, 08:10 PM #16
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Rothschild came pretty close, I guess.

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09-25-2013, 08:19 PM #17
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Have you ever looked in a kitchen drawer for something in particular and not seen it? So your wife walks over and immediately reaches in and pulls out the thing you were looking for?

The item was there all along, but you didn't see it. It was so obvious that your wife saw it instantly. You were just unwilling to see something that was plain as day.

You might not have known this before, but this proves God is a spatula.

Pray for me. hug.gif
09-25-2013, 08:29 PM #18
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Now say "aaah"...
09-25-2013, 10:04 PM #19
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(09-25-2013, 08:19 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Have you ever looked in a kitchen drawer for something in particular and not seen it? So your wife walks over and immediately reaches in and pulls out the thing you were looking for?

The item was there all along, but you didn't see it. It was so obvious that your wife saw it instantly. You were just unwilling to see something that was plain as day.

You might not have known this before, but this proves God is a spatula.
Oh. I thought it proved Mrs. God is the one who truly wears the pants in the family.
09-25-2013, 10:31 PM #20
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chuckle.gif I am God almighty and I have Mrs. God's permission to say so.

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09-26-2013, 06:01 AM #21
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(09-25-2013, 10:31 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  chuckle.gif I am God almighty and I have Mrs. God's permission to say so.

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Pray for me. hug.gif
09-26-2013, 08:29 AM #22
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(09-25-2013, 08:19 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Have you ever looked in a kitchen drawer for something in particular and not seen it? So your wife walks over and immediately reaches in and pulls out the thing you were looking for?

The item was there all along, but you didn't see it. It was so obvious that your wife saw it instantly. You were just unwilling to see something that was plain as day.

You might not have known this before, but this proves God is a spatula.

It's probably time to add at this point that the last sentence was a throw away line just for fun.

The real point is we sometimes ask for God to show Itself to us, yet we can't even see the wooden spoon in the drawer because we aren't willing to see it.

Folks, God is like a bazillion wooden spoons you refuse to see. It is right in front of you. But you get mad at the spoon and you get mad at God because they won't show themselves. Well duh, whose fault is that?

If you really want to see the spoon, you WILL see it. The same is true for God. If you really want to see God, you will see It, too.

God gives you free will. You can use your free will either to see God or not see God. No one else can exercise your personal free will for you, or it wouldn't be free will.

If you ask me to show you God, my answer to you is this, "Go find the spoon you refuse to see. Just like the spoon, God is hiding from you in plain sight."

Pray for me. hug.gif
09-26-2013, 10:17 AM #23
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(09-24-2013, 08:44 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  This has been on my mind for a few days to prove a point to some! So how would you hide your identity to keep people from finding out until you feel it is time? What could you do to keep people from ever believing you? How well could you keep quiet while changing the world? Would you want some to know you sooner or later or would you stay hidden? Would you hang with junkies to blend and try to help them and their life out, or would you go to the rich and try to sway their rudimentary views on religion? Curious, let me know, inquiring minds want to know...?

Just who or what is programming peoples minds nowadays wtf2.gif damned.gif
09-26-2013, 04:51 PM #24
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(09-26-2013, 08:29 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(09-25-2013, 08:19 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Have you ever looked in a kitchen drawer for something in particular and not seen it? So your wife walks over and immediately reaches in and pulls out the thing you were looking for?

The item was there all along, but you didn't see it. It was so obvious that your wife saw it instantly. You were just unwilling to see something that was plain as day.

You might not have known this before, but this proves God is a spatula.

It's probably time to add at this point that the last sentence was a throw away line just for fun.

The real point is we sometimes ask for God to show Itself to us, yet we can't even see the wooden spoon in the drawer because we aren't willing to see it.

Folks, God is like a bazillion wooden spoons you refuse to see. It is right in front of you. But you get mad at the spoon and you get mad at God because they won't show themselves. Well duh, whose fault is that?

If you really want to see the spoon, you WILL see it. The same is true for God. If you really want to see God, you will see It, too.

God gives you free will. You can use your free will either to see God or not see God. No one else can exercise your personal free will for you, or it wouldn't be free will.

If you ask me to show you God, my answer to you is this, "Go find the spoon you refuse to see. Just like the spoon, God is hiding from you in plain sight."

Free will? Are you certain of that?
Or is everything preordained?
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09-26-2013, 11:11 PM #25
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(09-26-2013, 04:51 PM)Hyperthermal Wrote:  
(09-26-2013, 08:29 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(09-25-2013, 08:19 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Have you ever looked in a kitchen drawer for something in particular and not seen it? So your wife walks over and immediately reaches in and pulls out the thing you were looking for?

The item was there all along, but you didn't see it. It was so obvious that your wife saw it instantly. You were just unwilling to see something that was plain as day.

You might not have known this before, but this proves God is a spatula.


It's probably time to add at this point that the last sentence was a throw away line just for fun.

The real point is we sometimes ask for God to show Itself to us, yet we can't even see the wooden spoon in the drawer because we aren't willing to see it.

Folks, God is like a bazillion wooden spoons you refuse to see. It is right in front of you. But you get mad at the spoon and you get mad at God because they won't show themselves. Well duh, whose fault is that?

If you really want to see the spoon, you WILL see it. The same is true for God. If you really want to see God, you will see It, too.

God gives you free will. You can use your free will either to see God or not see God. No one else can exercise your personal free will for you, or it wouldn't be free will.

If you ask me to show you God, my answer to you is this, "Go find the spoon you refuse to see. Just like the spoon, God is hiding from you in plain sight."

Free will? Are you certain of that?
Or is everything preordained?
hmm.gif

Through your own free will you are free to believe in preordination if you wish.

The concept doesn't work for me, so I choose not to accept it. wave.gif

Pray for me. hug.gif
09-27-2013, 02:30 AM #26
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(09-26-2013, 11:11 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(09-26-2013, 04:51 PM)Hyperthermal Wrote:  
(09-26-2013, 08:29 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(09-25-2013, 08:19 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Have you ever looked in a kitchen drawer for something in particular and not seen it? So your wife walks over and immediately reaches in and pulls out the thing you were looking for?

The item was there all along, but you didn't see it. It was so obvious that your wife saw it instantly. You were just unwilling to see something that was plain as day.

You might not have known this before, but this proves God is a spatula.


It's probably time to add at this point that the last sentence was a throw away line just for fun.

The real point is we sometimes ask for God to show Itself to us, yet we can't even see the wooden spoon in the drawer because we aren't willing to see it.

Folks, God is like a bazillion wooden spoons you refuse to see. It is right in front of you. But you get mad at the spoon and you get mad at God because they won't show themselves. Well duh, whose fault is that?

If you really want to see the spoon, you WILL see it. The same is true for God. If you really want to see God, you will see It, too.

God gives you free will. You can use your free will either to see God or not see God. No one else can exercise your personal free will for you, or it wouldn't be free will.

If you ask me to show you God, my answer to you is this, "Go find the spoon you refuse to see. Just like the spoon, God is hiding from you in plain sight."

Free will? Are you certain of that?
Or is everything preordained?
hmm.gif

Through your own free will you are free to believe in preordination if you wish.

The concept doesn't work for me, so I choose not to accept it. wave.gif
But God knows the future. He knows what choices you're going to make. After all, He's God. It seems to me that if one believes in an omniscient Creator, one must come to the logical conclusion that everything is preordained. Isn't everything "God's will"?
09-27-2013, 06:16 AM #27
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(09-27-2013, 02:30 AM)Hyperthermal Wrote:  
(09-26-2013, 11:11 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(09-26-2013, 04:51 PM)Hyperthermal Wrote:  
(09-26-2013, 08:29 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(09-25-2013, 08:19 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  Have you ever looked in a kitchen drawer for something in particular and not seen it? So your wife walks over and immediately reaches in and pulls out the thing you were looking for?

The item was there all along, but you didn't see it. It was so obvious that your wife saw it instantly. You were just unwilling to see something that was plain as day.

You might not have known this before, but this proves God is a spatula.


It's probably time to add at this point that the last sentence was a throw away line just for fun.

The real point is we sometimes ask for God to show Itself to us, yet we can't even see the wooden spoon in the drawer because we aren't willing to see it.

Folks, God is like a bazillion wooden spoons you refuse to see. It is right in front of you. But you get mad at the spoon and you get mad at God because they won't show themselves. Well duh, whose fault is that?

If you really want to see the spoon, you WILL see it. The same is true for God. If you really want to see God, you will see It, too.

God gives you free will. You can use your free will either to see God or not see God. No one else can exercise your personal free will for you, or it wouldn't be free will.

If you ask me to show you God, my answer to you is this, "Go find the spoon you refuse to see. Just like the spoon, God is hiding from you in plain sight."

Free will? Are you certain of that?
Or is everything preordained?
hmm.gif

Through your own free will you are free to believe in preordination if you wish.

The concept doesn't work for me, so I choose not to accept it. wave.gif
But God knows the future. He knows what choices you're going to make. After all, He's God. It seems to me that if one believes in an omniscient Creator, one must come to the logical conclusion that everything is preordained. Isn't everything "God's will"?

It's a circular argument. You're free to make it.

The problem with the logic is that God doesn't see the Future. God is the Now. The future is something we've dreamed up.

Pray for me. hug.gif
09-27-2013, 06:51 AM #28
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(09-27-2013, 06:16 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(09-27-2013, 02:30 AM)Hyperthermal Wrote:  
(09-26-2013, 11:11 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(09-26-2013, 04:51 PM)Hyperthermal Wrote:  
(09-26-2013, 08:29 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  It's probably time to add at this point that the last sentence was a throw away line just for fun.

The real point is we sometimes ask for God to show Itself to us, yet we can't even see the wooden spoon in the drawer because we aren't willing to see it.

Folks, God is like a bazillion wooden spoons you refuse to see. It is right in front of you. But you get mad at the spoon and you get mad at God because they won't show themselves. Well duh, whose fault is that?

If you really want to see the spoon, you WILL see it. The same is true for God. If you really want to see God, you will see It, too.

God gives you free will. You can use your free will either to see God or not see God. No one else can exercise your personal free will for you, or it wouldn't be free will.

If you ask me to show you God, my answer to you is this, "Go find the spoon you refuse to see. Just like the spoon, God is hiding from you in plain sight."

Free will? Are you certain of that?
Or is everything preordained?
hmm.gif

Through your own free will you are free to believe in preordination if you wish.

The concept doesn't work for me, so I choose not to accept it. wave.gif
But God knows the future. He knows what choices you're going to make. After all, He's God. It seems to me that if one believes in an omniscient Creator, one must come to the logical conclusion that everything is preordained. Isn't everything "God's will"?

It's a circular argument. You're free to make it.

The problem with the logic is that God doesn't see the Future. God is the Now. The future is something we've dreamed up.

How is my argument circular? It has only one premise, i.e. God is omniscient. Isn't infinite knowledge one of the defining qualities of God? Is it your contention that there are indeed limits to God's knowledge?

If one agrees with the premise that God is omniscient, the conclusion is straightforward and entirely linear. God already knows what your choices will be thus everything must be preordained.
09-27-2013, 07:04 AM #29
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
As it is written,,,

so must it be,,,

like a screenplay,,,

the script has been written,,,

including the end,,,

this is the movie...

(:X
09-27-2013, 08:17 AM #30
Softy Incognito Anonymous
 
Genesis 1:28: “God said to them, ‘Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it;

the word “subdue”,,,

In Hebrew this is kabash,,,

it does mean “subdue” or “enslave”,,,

and even in the harshest instances “molest” or “rape",,,

prior to one hundred years ago,,,

this would be considered insane,,,

nowadays,,,

not so much...

(:X



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