(09-27-2013, 06:51 AM)Hyperthermal Wrote:(09-27-2013, 06:16 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:(09-27-2013, 02:30 AM)Hyperthermal Wrote:(09-26-2013, 11:11 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:But God knows the future. He knows what choices you're going to make. After all, He's God. It seems to me that if one believes in an omniscient Creator, one must come to the logical conclusion that everything is preordained. Isn't everything "God's will"?(09-26-2013, 04:51 PM)Hyperthermal Wrote: Free will? Are you certain of that?
Or is everything preordained?
Through your own free will you are free to believe in preordination if you wish.
The concept doesn't work for me, so I choose not to accept it.
It's a circular argument. You're free to make it.
The problem with the logic is that God doesn't see the Future. God is the Now. The future is something we've dreamed up.
How is my argument circular? It has only one premise, i.e. God is omniscient. Isn't infinite knowledge one of the defining qualities of God? Is it your contention that there are indeed limits to God's knowledge?
If one agrees with the premise that God is omniscient, the conclusion is straightforward and entirely linear. God already knows what your choices will be thus everything must be preordained.
Did you miss part of my answer? There is no such thing as the future being known except as an illusion. God only knows the Now which is all there is. God doesn't control the future because it doesn't exist.
Secondly, how do you know whether God is omniscient? Just because someone claims that in a book doesn't make it so. Maybe God loves surprises just as much as we do!
Pray for me.
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