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01-22-2013, 08:06 PM #1
peedee Incognito Anonymous
 
real ID has been put into law as of 1/15/13. I live in NY and now the local news is talking about ny driver license. I even heard them talk about rfid chips in the license. Ofcourse they are claiming this is a great thing to prevent identity theft and people like my parents who dont understand this tech already said it seems like a good idea.

I refuse to get the chip in anything. we are giving up to many rights in america. no need for a tracking chip in my license. no need for me to give you my retinal scans or finger prints. I'm going to call the ACLU about this and try to fight. probably going to contact lawyers this week too. my license expires in march. its time to fight for your freedom. dont jut give in once again start reseaching and making a stand Call the ACLU see what you can do.

good luck
01-22-2013, 08:12 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,616 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
Best of luck to you. If everybody refused there might be a change, but I don't see that happening.
01-22-2013, 08:15 PM #3
peedee Incognito Anonymous
 
(01-22-2013, 08:12 PM)Octo Wrote:  Best of luck to you. If everybody refused there might be a change, but I don't see that happening.


i dont either but i dont beleive in having this crap forced on us. i wont do it, if that means i go to jail then so be it. I'm going to sell my car and go without a driver license. i wont be able to get a job without one so i guess i'm screwed. oh well atleast ill know i stood for what i believed in..
01-22-2013, 08:15 PM #4
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Unfortunately, it seems like the ACLU has not mattered one bit since nine eleven. The war has shifted from abroad to the US, hell congress declared the US a "battlefield".
It won't change until people stop electing Republicans & Democrats, they have shown time and time again they are the same party, serving the same corporate interests.
There's no money in doing the will of constituents, and that's all they are concerned with. A two party system is hardly a democracy.

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01-22-2013, 08:33 PM #5
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:12,782 Threads:1,182 Joined:Feb 2011
(01-22-2013, 08:15 PM)peedee Wrote:  
(01-22-2013, 08:12 PM)Octo Wrote:  Best of luck to you. If everybody refused there might be a change, but I don't see that happening.


i dont either but i dont beleive in having this crap forced on us. i wont do it, if that means i go to jail then so be it. I'm going to sell my car and go without a driver license. i wont be able to get a job without one so i guess i'm screwed. oh well atleast ill know i stood for what i believed in..


I think you have to pick your battles. RFID chips can be disarmed, google it. Take the chip, ruin it and carry on. Don't take yourself out of the game and remember, there's safety in numbers. Just sayin.
01-22-2013, 09:09 PM #6
Ghost of 51:50 Member
Posts:285 Threads:58 Joined:Nov 2012
(01-22-2013, 08:06 PM)peedee Wrote:  real ID has been put into law as of 1/15/13. I live in NY and now the local news is talking about ny driver license. I even heard them talk about rfid chips in the license. Ofcourse they are claiming this is a great thing to prevent identity theft and people like my parents who dont understand this tech already said it seems like a good idea.

I refuse to get the chip in anything. we are giving up to many rights in america. no need for a tracking chip in my license. no need for me to give you my retinal scans or finger prints. I'm going to call the ACLU about this and try to fight. probably going to contact lawyers this week too. my license expires in march. its time to fight for your freedom. dont jut give in once again start reseaching and making a stand Call the ACLU see what you can do.

good luck


CHARLESTON -


You'll soon see a change in license plates in West Virginia. It's a move that will save the state some money.

The Division of Motor Vehicles says it will switch from embossed plates to plates that are digitally printed with the registration number.

A spokesperson says the new plates are easier to recognize and will cost about $600,000 dollars less to produce.

They're also more environmentally friendly because they don't need to be painted.

Plates are made by West Virginia Correctional Industries at Mount Olive Prison.

http://www.wowktv.com/story/20642018/new...tes-coming

Website: http://www.666themark.com

Blog #1 - The Dream State
http://the-dream-state.blogspot.com/

Blog #2 - RFID and You!
http://rfid-and-you.blogspot.com/
01-22-2013, 09:28 PM #7
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:12,782 Threads:1,182 Joined:Feb 2011
(01-22-2013, 09:09 PM)Ghost of 51:50 Wrote:  Plates are made by West Virginia Correctional Industries at Mount Olive Prison.


For 10 cents an hour labor while being fed and incarcerted at taxpayer expense for $20/hr.

Walmart's got nothing on the prison labor industry drinking.gif
01-22-2013, 09:53 PM #8
Ghost of 51:50 Member
Posts:285 Threads:58 Joined:Nov 2012
(01-22-2013, 09:28 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(01-22-2013, 09:09 PM)Ghost of 51:50 Wrote:  Plates are made by West Virginia Correctional Industries at Mount Olive Prison.


For 10 cents an hour labor while being fed and incarcerted at taxpayer expense for $20/hr.

Walmart's got nothing on the prison labor industry drinking.gif


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Website: http://www.666themark.com

Blog #1 - The Dream State
http://the-dream-state.blogspot.com/

Blog #2 - RFID and You!
http://rfid-and-you.blogspot.com/
01-22-2013, 10:10 PM #9
Cynicalabsurdance Member
Posts:8,267 Threads:191 Joined:Feb 2011
Hey ?

are you hating on Gov. Control ?


gee ,,,, who'd a thunk it'd come to this ?


I got a right to privacy ,,, right ? lmao.gif


i get along on a 16 year old I.D.


however , I'm also on the Red List . lmao.giflmao.giflmao.giflmao.gif


ğck 'em


Your new Book : How to Totally Control 310 Million U.S. Citizens , and get them to pay you to do it "


I'll say it again : You deserve what you allow to be done to you

no sympathy from me . and hell no i am not sorry it is happening .

just desserts folks .
01-23-2013, 12:46 AM #10
peedee Incognito Anonymous
 
(01-22-2013, 10:10 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  Hey ?

are you hating on Gov. Control ?


gee ,,,, who'd a thunk it'd come to this ?


I got a right to privacy ,,, right ? lmao.gif


i get along on a 16 year old I.D.


however , I'm also on the Red List . lmao.giflmao.giflmao.giflmao.gif


ğck 'em


Your new Book : How to Totally Control 310 Million U.S. Citizens , and get them to pay you to do it "


I'll say it again : You deserve what you allow to be done to you

no sympathy from me . and hell no i am not sorry it is happening .

just desserts folks .


this is happening global so if you think you are safe from this then you are sadly mistaken. i dont want anyone to feel sorry for me, i want to fight the thing before it happens to me and you

research biometrics in mexico and india then you will see this is a new world order move
01-23-2013, 12:59 AM #11
peedee Incognito Anonymous
 
this is what the aclu has to say about rfid in driver license in virginia

http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liber...s-licenses
01-23-2013, 01:12 AM #12
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,616 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
I have a paper on RFID due in a couple of weeks for my Logistics course, do you think they'd approve of kritterbox as a credible source? damned.gif

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01-23-2013, 01:20 AM #13
peedee Incognito Anonymous
 
(01-23-2013, 12:46 AM)peedee Wrote:  
(01-22-2013, 10:10 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  Hey ?

are you hating on Gov. Control ?


gee ,,,, who'd a thunk it'd come to this ?


I got a right to privacy ,,, right ? lmao.gif


i get along on a 16 year old I.D.


however , I'm also on the Red List . lmao.giflmao.giflmao.giflmao.gif


ğck 'em


Your new Book : How to Totally Control 310 Million U.S. Citizens , and get them to pay you to do it "


I'll say it again : You deserve what you allow to be done to you

no sympathy from me . and hell no i am not sorry it is happening .

just desserts folks .


this is happening global so if you think you are safe from this then you are sadly mistaken. i dont want anyone to feel sorry for me, i want to fight the thing before it happens to me and you

research biometrics in mexico and india then you will see this is a new world order move


Biometric Identifiers in a National ID Scheme

Many countries are now “modernizing” their ID databases to include biometric identifiers that authenticate or verify identity based on physical characteristics such as fingerprints, iris, face and palm prints, gait, voice and DNA. While supporters argue that biometric identifiers are an efficient way to accurately identify people, biometrics are costly, prone to error, and present extreme risks to privacy and individual freedom.

Once biometric data is captured, it frequently flows between governmental and private sector users. Companies have developed biometric systems to control access to places, products and services. Citizens can be asked for a thumbprint to access e-government services or enter a room in a corporate headquarters. Geolocation tracking, video surveillance and facial recognition software built on top of large biometrics collections can further enable pervasive surveillance systems.

After 9/11, many governments began collecting, storing and using biometrics identifiers in national IDs. Authorities justified these initiatives by arguing that biometric identification and authentication helps secure borders, verify employment and immigration, prosecute criminals, and combat identity fraud and terrorism. Despite this trend, the citizens of many countries have successfully opposed biometric national ID schemes including Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States.

Why You Should Oppose National ID Regimes

Mandatory national ID cards violate essential civil liberties. They increase the power of authorities to reduce your freedoms to those granted by the card. If a national ID is required for employment, you could be fired and your employer fined if you fail to present your papers. People without ID cards can be denied the right to purchase property, open a bank account or receive government benefits. National identity systems present difficult choices about who can request to see an ID card and for what purpose. Mandatory IDs significantly expand police powers. Police with the authority to demand ID is invariably granted the power to detain people who cannot produce one. Many countries lack legal safeguards to prevent abuse of this power.

Historically, national ID systems have been used to discriminate against people on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion and political views. The use of national IDs to enforce immigration laws invites discrimination that targets minorities. There is little evidence to support the argument that national IDs reduce crime. Instead, these systems create incentives for identity theft and widespread use of false identities by criminals. National ID cards allow different types of identifying information stored in different databases to be linked and analyzed, creating extreme risks to data security. Administration of ID programs are often outsourced to unaccountable companies. Private sector security threat models assume that at any one time, one per cent of company employees are willing to sell or trade confidential information for personal gain.

https://www.eff.org/issues/national-ids
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01-23-2013, 01:22 AM #14
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(01-23-2013, 01:12 AM)Octo Wrote:  I have a paper on RFID due in a couple of weeks for my Logistics course, do you think they'd approve of kritterbox as a credible source? damned.gif

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what about eff and aclu??

both are pretty powerful civil liberty groups that are very much against rfid. why are you writing about this tech??
01-23-2013, 02:20 AM #15
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,616 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
Yes thanks, there are many good links on this forum. I'm writing this because I got to choose a topic I found interesting within logistics. cheers.gif



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