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take finland?????
03-31-2014, 01:54 AM #1
j browsing Member
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As of late, Vladimir Putin seems to get most of what he wants. So, when a former top Putin adviser says that Russia’s President wants to take Finland, the world takes notice.

While speaking to the Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet, Andrej Illarionov made it clear that Putin sees any territories that were formerly Russian or Soviet as territories that Russia ought to expand into. Illarionov served as the president’s economic adviser between 2000-2005.

Finland was a part of the former Russian Empire up until 1917 when it was granted total autonomy. However, according to Illarionov, it is Putin’s belief that Finland is rightfully Russian, and the granting of its independence was an act of treason. As such, Illarionov claims that Putin will move into Finland to retake it, and he is poised to do so soon.http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/vladimir-p...s-finland/

"when life gives you lemons..throw them at someone"...Grumpy Cat good.png
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03-31-2014, 02:11 AM #2
Not Gumby Incognito Anonymous
 
Oh My !

İmage
03-31-2014, 02:23 AM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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Meh... The guy works for Washington based think tank Cato Institute. I read that Swedish article and it's just fear mongering. coffeetime.gif
03-31-2014, 02:27 AM #4
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NATO it is,
who wants to get into Finland.

Hence the neverending, tendentious BullShit.

If you let them in
It will be a sin
Whether or not
you be a "patriot"!

İmage
03-31-2014, 02:32 AM #5
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(03-31-2014, 02:23 AM)Octo Wrote:  Meh... The guy works for Washington based think tank Cato Institute. I read that Swedish article and it's just fear mongering. coffeetime.gif

yup.gif more ooga booga

from the .. reputable sources chuckle.gif
03-31-2014, 02:49 AM #6
j browsing Member
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just in case I am ready to help Finland chuck.gif

"when life gives you lemons..throw them at someone"...Grumpy Cat good.png
03-31-2014, 02:58 AM #7
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(03-31-2014, 02:49 AM)j browsing Wrote:  just in case I am ready to help Finland chuck.gif

hi5.gif
03-31-2014, 03:03 AM #8
Octo Mother Superior
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(03-31-2014, 02:49 AM)j browsing Wrote:  just in case I am ready to help Finland chuck.gif

yay.gif Thank you JB hug.gif
03-31-2014, 03:30 AM #9
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Are they trying to amp up a second cold war?

Keep an eye on some of this rhetoric, I sure as hell hope they are not.

And if it was true, which I doubt, the UN will most likely cave beyond economic restrictions if Russia pushes people around too much.

A more likely scenario would be to appease Russia, to allow aggression elsewhere, like Iran etc.

I turned myself to consider wisdom and madness and folly
The wise man’s eyes are in his head,
But the fool walks in darkness.
Yet I myself perceived
That the same event happens to them all.
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03-31-2014, 03:52 AM #10
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Russian military begins to arm their secret weapon for deployment

İmage
03-31-2014, 04:00 AM #11
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(03-31-2014, 03:52 AM)mystery Wrote:  Russian military begins to arm their secret weapon for deployment

İmage

Amusing it is a horse, with what happened to the Trojans.

You ought to take some of this more seriously, it is not always what they are saying, but the motive for saying it.

I'm not ready to make an assumption yet on what may be going on beyond basic speculation.

I turned myself to consider wisdom and madness and folly
The wise man’s eyes are in his head,
But the fool walks in darkness.
Yet I myself perceived
That the same event happens to them all.
03-31-2014, 04:15 AM #12
j browsing Member
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(03-31-2014, 04:00 AM)blind prophet Wrote:  
(03-31-2014, 03:52 AM)mystery Wrote:  Russian military begins to arm their secret weapon for deployment

İmage

Amusing it is a horse, with what happened to the Trojans.

You ought to take some of this more seriously, it is not always what they are saying, but the motive for saying it.

I'm not ready to make an assumption yet on what may be going on beyond basic speculation.

I ran across two web sites today..one Russian and one Iranian..saying that Obama is trying to start wwIIIdamned.gif

"when life gives you lemons..throw them at someone"...Grumpy Cat good.png
03-31-2014, 04:43 AM #13
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(03-31-2014, 04:15 AM)j browsing Wrote:  I ran across two web sites today..one Russian and one Iranian..saying that Obama is trying to start wwIIIdamned.gif

Well nothing drives nationalism quite like a foreign threat. For Iran keep your eye on this for probable cause.

Obama had as head of the UN security counsel.

Resolution 1887, which, among other things, calls upon the States that are party to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) to comply fully with all their obligations and fulfill their treaty commitments. It also calls upon all States to sign and ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT).





Then this group formed a year or two later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Security_Summit

The Nuclear Security Summit (NSS) is a world summit, aimed at preventing nuclear terrorism around the globe. The first summit was held in Washington, D.C. on April 12–13, 2010. The second summit was in Seoul, Korea in 2012. The third summit was held in The Hague, the Netherlands on March 24–25, 2014.

* the most logical way to get away with attacking Iran is to appease Russia, best speculation I can come up with.

I turned myself to consider wisdom and madness and folly
The wise man’s eyes are in his head,
But the fool walks in darkness.
Yet I myself perceived
That the same event happens to them all.
03-31-2014, 04:45 AM #14
blind prophet Member
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Having some display issues, I'm trying to fix that post, or it may just be me.

I turned myself to consider wisdom and madness and folly
The wise man’s eyes are in his head,
But the fool walks in darkness.
Yet I myself perceived
That the same event happens to them all.
03-31-2014, 08:33 AM #15
White Ribbon call me
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(03-31-2014, 01:54 AM)j browsing Wrote:  As of late, Vladimir Putin seems to get most of what he wants. So, when a former top Putin adviser says that Russia’s President wants to take Finland, the world takes notice.

While speaking to the Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet, Andrej Illarionov made it clear that Putin sees any territories that were formerly Russian or Soviet as territories that Russia ought to expand into. Illarionov served as the president’s economic adviser between 2000-2005.

Finland was a part of the former Russian Empire up until 1917 when it was granted total autonomy. However, according to Illarionov, it is Putin’s belief that Finland is rightfully Russian, and the granting of its independence was an act of treason. As such, Illarionov claims that Putin will move into Finland to retake it, and he is poised to do so soon.http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/vladimir-p...s-finland/

thats just plain old american propaganda.. only works on americans.. the rest of the world aren't that stupid to believe it for one second.. its tough being perfect.. 13.gif

(that was in no way addressed to you jb.. just a generalisation)



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