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11-04-2014, 08:59 AM #1
ocker1 Member
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11-04-2014, 10:47 AM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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I don't think a religion can be evil, but there sure are idiot asshats in all of them 15.gif
11-04-2014, 10:53 AM #3
ocker1 Member
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(11-04-2014, 10:47 AM)Octo Wrote:  I don't think a religion can be evil, but there sure are idiot asshats in all of them 15.gif

when father can cheerfully stone their daughter or wives to death

HAVE THEIR GENITALS SLICED , then given away to men 5 or 5 times there age

THAT IS EVIL !
11-04-2014, 12:46 PM #4
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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(11-04-2014, 10:53 AM)ocker1 Wrote:  
(11-04-2014, 10:47 AM)Octo Wrote:  I don't think a religion can be evil, but there sure are idiot asshats in all of them 15.gif

when father can cheerfully stone their daughter or wives to death

HAVE THEIR GENITALS SLICED , then given away to men 5 or 5 times there age

THAT IS EVIL !

I agree Ocker. Animals like that are too good for the sheep & goats they prefer.
11-04-2014, 12:47 PM #5
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The genital mutilation is more of an African problem than a Muslim problem.
Eritrea has almost 90 percent female genital mutilation. It's a Christian country. Ethiopia has 75 percent female genital mutilation. It's a Christian country.
İmage
This is not a problem in only Muslim countries. Countries with majority-Christian populations also carry out this practice, while Islamic-majority countries like Iraq and Yemen have rates on the lower side.

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11-04-2014, 01:56 PM #6
failboat Incognito Anonymous
 
(11-04-2014, 12:47 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  The genital mutilation is more of an African problem than a Muslim problem.
Eritrea has almost 90 percent female genital mutilation. It's a Christian country. Ethiopia has 75 percent female genital mutilation. It's a Christian country.
İmage
This is not a problem in only Muslim countries. Countries with majority-Christian populations also carry out this practice, while Islamic-majority countries like Iraq and Yemen have rates on the lower side.

dunno but in my book circumcision is also a form of genital mutilation. 13.gif
and muslims and jews mutilate their children because god failed to create men without foreskin in the first place.^^
praise the lord.
11-04-2014, 02:36 PM #7
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God said further to Abraham, "Now as for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations. 10"This is My covenant, which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: every male among you shall be circumcised. 11"And you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be the sign of the covenant between Me and you.…
Genesis 17: 9 - 11 sums it up. Tis what Yahweh said to Abraham, which is cool by me, no wonder people here are concerned about foreskin, God was as well.
When Moses and God play golf, they shout foreskin to make the heathens scatter.

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11-04-2014, 02:45 PM #8
failboat Incognito Anonymous
 
"look down at your mutilated penis. this is a symbol of the covenant between you and me. ps.: and don't forget to smite the heads of foreign children against some rocks.

xxx

god"
11-04-2014, 02:45 PM #9
Octo Mother Superior
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Female genital mutilation is horrible, but Islam didn't create it.

Quote:The practice is rooted in gender inequality, attempts to control women's sexuality, and ideas about purity, modesty and aesthetics. It is initiated and usually carried out by women, who see it as a source of honour, and who fear that failing to have their daughters and granddaughters cut will expose the girls to social exclusion.

Quote:The origins of the practice are unknown.[136] Gerry Mackie has suggested that it began with the Meroite civilization in present-day Sudan; he writes that its east-west, north-south contiguous distribution in Africa intersects in Sudan, and speculates that infibulation originated there with imperial polygyny, before the rise of Islam, to increase confidence in paternity.[137]

Historian Mary Knight writes that there may be a reference to an uncircumcised girl ('m't), written in hieroglyphs, in what is known as Spell 1117 of the Coffin Texts:



Spell 1117

But if a man wants to know how to live, he should recite it [a magical spell] every day, after his flesh has been rubbed with the b3d [unknown substance] of an uncircumcised girl ['m't] and the flakes of skin [šnft] of an uncircumcised bald man.
— Inscription on Egyptian sarcophagus, c. 1991–1786 BCE

Quote:Surveys have shown a widespread belief, particularly in Mali, Eritrea, Mauritania, Guinea and Egypt, that FGM is a religious requirement.[126] Gerry Mackie and John LeJeune write that practitioners may not distinguish between religion, tradition and chastity, making it difficult to interpret the data.[127] As part of UNFPA–UNICEF's joint programme, 20,941 religious and traditional leaders made public declarations between 2008 and 2013 delinking their religions from the practice, and religious leaders issued 2,898 edicts against it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation
11-04-2014, 02:59 PM #10
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(11-04-2014, 02:45 PM)failboat Wrote:  "look down at your mutilated penïs. this is a symbol of the covenant between you and me. ps.: and don't forget to smite the heads of foreign children against some rocks.

xxx

god"

I'd never buy a mutilated car, but I would buy a modified car. It's all in perception I suppose. I've never really given all that much thought to all this... hmm.gif
Drapes, no drapes dunno.gif Who's to say. Abraham had some unique experience going on there in the first place.
The account is quite explicit in the fact he basically sat down and split a bottle of wine and had dinner with God in the flesh.
Then the next umpteen installments thereafter they go on to contradict that account, basically saying no one can see god in the flesh and live.
The Torah was written in symbolism for those who study and understand that type of thing, and is not meant... or should not be taken literally, but that circumcision request? [citation needed] was also quite explicit.

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11-04-2014, 03:03 PM #11
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When billions of religiously warped and twisted people worship and idolize an imaginary moon god while billions of religiously warped and twisted people are obsessed and possessed by an ancient fairy tale crescent lunar deity all hope and sanity will be eclipsed and erased by intolerance and evil as they rabidly stone and rape and behead and torture and hang and blow up and shoot their way into the bottomless abyss of fear and hate and paranoia as the flames of hell consume them spreading across dying earth within the broken souls of fallen humanity...
11-04-2014, 03:05 PM #12
Octo Mother Superior
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I read this interesting article yesterday:

Quote:“I’ve found huge hostility in the United States among secular as well as religious people toward Islam, seeing it as a faith of violence—and that is true in the U.K., too," said Armstrong, who lives in England. But "the United States is very much entwined in the history of the Middle East, and similarly, we British are deeply entwined with these issues in what we used to call the developing world.”

This is what she asks of readers in her book: Look at history to understand the complex origins of the "religious violence" that shows up in the news every day. For example, "some Western analysts have argued that suicide killing is deeply embedded in the Islamic tradition," she writes. "But if that were so, why was 'revolutionary suicide' unknown in Sunni Islam before the late twentieth century? ... Why have both Hamas and Hizbollah abandoned it?"

Even though perpetrators of this kind of violence invoke Islam, their acts are mainly political, she writes:

What all suicide operations do have in common ... is a strategic goal: 'to compel liberal democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorist consider to be their homeland.'

This is not to deny that Hamas is as much a religious as a national movement, only that the fusion of the two is a modern innovation. The exalted love of the fatherland, which has no roots in Islamic culture, is now suffused with Muslim fervor.


All of Armstrong's arguments come back to the same basic point: It's impossible to explain contemporary or historical violence solely through religion. "Muslim fundamentalism ... has often—though again, not always—segued into physical aggression," she writes. "This is not because Islam is constitutionally more prone to violence than Protestant Christianity, but rather because Muslims had a much harsher introduction to modernity." (Here, she dates modernity to the defeat of the Ottoman Empire during World War I.) In other words: Even religious history has to be read through the narrative lens of politics.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international.../382035/2/
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11-04-2014, 03:07 PM #13
failboat Incognito Anonymous
 
imo mutilation is mutilation even if someone calls it covenant with god or whatever. some people think it's esthetical but esthetics is (almost) just a cultural phenomenon. this for example is also a form of mutilation but they think it looks good and probably also view it as some sort of covenant with their god or whatever.^^
11-04-2014, 03:25 PM #14
Octo Mother Superior
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Seems like it's more of a cultural thing 13.gif
11-04-2014, 03:25 PM #15
White Ribbon call me
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turned into a circumcision thread.. chuckle.gif

male circumcision is totally fine, women's is barbaric.

cant be compared..



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