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05-14-2013, 12:09 AM #16
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(05-13-2013, 06:37 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  BTW, violence against women is ever increasing for all women of all religions and races.

Bullshit. Men are more likely to be abused by women in a domestic relationship, and that trend is increasing.
05-14-2013, 12:15 AM #17
Octo Mother Superior
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Yes I read that too the other day. sad2.gif
05-14-2013, 12:32 AM #18
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so a last resort is ok and what DEFINES a last resort to justify violence? self defense yes well i had an ex husband who thought he was going to use the last resort rule against me..for not preparing his dinner on time..and not cleaning the house to his standards and not wanting that asshole to sexual abuse me. so ya know what you can do with your last resort rule coffeetime.gif

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05-14-2013, 12:41 AM #19
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(05-14-2013, 12:32 AM)j browsing Wrote:  so a last resort is ok and what DEFINES a last resort to justify violence? self defense yes well i had an ex husband who thought he was going to use the last resort rule against me..for not preparing his dinner on time..and not cleaning the house to his standards and not wanting that asshole to sexual abuse me. so ya know what you can do with your last resort rule coffeetime.gif


So what you are saying is that there is never ever any instance when a parent should hit their children?
05-14-2013, 12:42 AM #20
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I find it hard to think of a single instance where violence is justified. Discipline doesn't have to be violent.
05-14-2013, 12:44 AM #21
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(05-14-2013, 12:32 AM)j browsing Wrote:  so a last resort is ok and what DEFINES a last resort to justify violence? self defense yes well i had an ex husband who thought he was going to use the last resort rule against me..for not preparing his dinner on time..and not cleaning the house to his standards and not wanting that asshole to sexual abuse me. so ya know what you can do with your last resort rule coffeetime.gif


And yes, if you were not performing your wifely duties to his standards, then it was his "last resort" to get you to do your job.

You disagreed with his standard, you left. Good for you. He had the standards of a tyrant. But this is a free country, and you were free to leave, so you did. What's the problem?
05-14-2013, 12:47 AM #22
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(05-14-2013, 12:42 AM)Octo Wrote:  I find it hard to think of a single instance where violence is justified. Discipline doesn't have to be violent.


Read my post above about the night I got arrested for domestic violence.

I don't make a habit of hitting women, but there have been a few instances in my life where I have, and I have no regrets about it. Well, one time I just lost my temper and smacked a girl in the face. In that case though, my regret is that I stayed with her. If someone can make you that angry to lose your temper like that, chances are they don't love you.
05-14-2013, 12:48 AM #23
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(05-14-2013, 12:41 AM)Jackinthebox Wrote:  
(05-14-2013, 12:32 AM)j browsing Wrote:  so a last resort is ok and what DEFINES a last resort to justify violence? self defense yes well i had an ex husband who thought he was going to use the last resort rule against me..for not preparing his dinner on time..and not cleaning the house to his standards and not wanting that asshole to sexual abuse me. so ya know what you can do with your last resort rule coffeetime.gif


So what you are saying is that there is never ever any instance when a parent should hit their children?
Parents should not hit there children..that is violence and should not be used sometimes people get too angry and it can get out of control..and the child can end up dead damned.gif

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05-14-2013, 12:51 AM #24
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I have seen parents, women especially, routinely hit their kids for "misbehaving" rather than actually teaching their kids to behave. I don't go for that crap.

But there are times when a child should be spanked, or when a temper tantrum needs to be stopped. The violence should not be the lesson, but it can be a necessary and effective tool in some instances.
05-14-2013, 12:52 AM #25
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(05-14-2013, 12:44 AM)Jackinthebox Wrote:  
(05-14-2013, 12:32 AM)j browsing Wrote:  so a last resort is ok and what DEFINES a last resort to justify violence? self defense yes well i had an ex husband who thought he was going to use the last resort rule against me..for not preparing his dinner on time..and not cleaning the house to his standards and not wanting that asshole to sexual abuse me. so ya know what you can do with your last resort rule coffeetime.gif


And yes, if you were not performing your wifely duties to his standards, then it was his "last resort" to get you to do your job.

You disagreed with his standard, you left. Good for you. He had the standards of a tyrant. But this is a free country, and you were free to leave, so you did. What's the problem?
the problem..he threatened to kill my parents and me in fact he tried I had him arrested and a ppo against him finally a few yrs after i left he died and then i was free

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05-14-2013, 12:55 AM #26
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(05-14-2013, 12:52 AM)j browsing Wrote:  the problem..he threatened to kill my parents and me in fact he tried I had him arrested and a ppo against him finally a few yrs after i left he died and then i was free

Threatening to kill people is not what we are discussing here.

That news article is talking about moral/religious guidelines for family management. That doesn't include trying to kill your inlaws.
05-14-2013, 12:59 AM #27
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I started this thread and yiou asked questions and i answered them so don' t play cutsie with me 13.gif

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05-14-2013, 01:14 AM #28
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(05-14-2013, 12:59 AM)j browsing Wrote:  I started this thread and yiou asked questions and i answered them so don' t play cutsie with me 13.gif


But your husband trying to kill you or his inlaws has no bearing on whether or not a man should be allowed to use physical force on his wife and children in order to manage his home.
05-14-2013, 01:18 AM #29
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Manage his home? blonde.gif

We're still talking about humans right? 13.gif
05-14-2013, 01:21 AM #30
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(05-14-2013, 01:18 AM)Octo Wrote:  Manage his home? blonde.gif

We're still talking about humans right? 13.gif


Yes, manage his home. The man is in charge. If the woman forgets that, she should be reminded.



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