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05-14-2013, 01:56 AM #46
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(05-14-2013, 01:52 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Of course not, but the you missed my point. If we are to believe that violence against women is increasing substantially everywhere, and if we assume more women are trying to protect themselves using violence to stop their attacker, then of course the stats of violence against men will increase too.


Violence against women isn't increasing. Violence against men is.

If you have 100 men in a room, and a hundred women, and 75 of those men have been abused, but only 50 women have, then clearly there are at least 25 women who are abusers. That is not self defense.

I am not talking about mutual violence here. Those studies show that women are the perpetrators of violence. It's not self defense when you hit someone who didn't hit you first.
05-14-2013, 01:58 AM #47
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(05-14-2013, 01:53 AM)j browsing Wrote:  i don't like hitting i see no reason for it unless for self defense


I am not going to say hitting is a "good" thing, but it can be necessary in some instances. And depending on one's own personality, beliefs, my standard or your standard are not necessarily what their standard should be.

05-14-2013, 02:01 AM #48
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(05-14-2013, 01:55 AM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  I have a Religion

it states : IF YOU HIT A WOMAN IN FRONT OF ME
YOU JUST COMMITTED SUICIDE mofo .

My Mother was Beat often by her first Husband

He Rots in a Grave I shït on every time I pass by it .


I saw a man almost get killed one night in a restaurant parking lot when he interfered in a fight a guy was having with his girlfriend. First off, the chick was going berserk on the dude when he finally hauled off and dumped her on her ass.

But then these two other guys stepped in to "rescue" this wild chick and attacked her boyfriend. She wound up stabbing one of the guys a whole bunch of times and left him there bleeding all over the parking lot.
05-14-2013, 02:05 AM #49
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(05-14-2013, 01:56 AM)Jackinthebox Wrote:  
(05-14-2013, 01:52 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Of course not, but the you missed my point. If we are to believe that violence against women is increasing substantially everywhere, and if we assume more women are trying to protect themselves using violence to stop their attacker, then of course the stats of violence against men will increase too.


Violence against women isn't increasing. Violence against men is.

If you have 100 men in a room, and a hundred women, and 75 of those men have been abused, but only 50 women have, then clearly there are at least 25 women who are abusers. That is not self defense.

I am not talking about mutual violence here. Those studies show that women are the perpetrators of violence. It's not self defense when you hit someone who didn't hit you first.


Quote:So what do we know about domestic violence? Research by Gender Links and the Medical Research Council conducted in Gauteng found that although 51.2% of women had experienced some form of physical, sexual or psychological violence at some point, only 0.3% had reported cases of domestic violence to the police.

http://www.womensnet.org.za/news/gender-...ears-stats

Let's do the math Jack, those 50 women reflect only 0.3% - now you need to get back to the blackboard and redo your figures.
05-14-2013, 02:07 AM #50
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(05-14-2013, 02:05 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Let's do the math Jack, those 50 women reflect only 0.3% - now you need to get back to the blackboard and redo your figures.


Way to entirely miss the fekkin point.
05-14-2013, 02:16 AM #51
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(05-14-2013, 02:07 AM)Jackinthebox Wrote:  
(05-14-2013, 02:05 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Let's do the math Jack, those 50 women reflect only 0.3% - now you need to get back to the blackboard and redo your figures.


Way to entirely miss the fekkin point.


I know you did.
05-14-2013, 02:19 AM #52
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And who do you think is more likely to report being the victim of domestic violence? A man or a woman? Who is more likely to be ignored by police when they say they are being abused? The man or the woman?

But that is beside the point I was illustrating to you anyway.

If more men than women are victims, then self-defense is bull.
05-14-2013, 02:22 AM #53
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(05-14-2013, 02:19 AM)Jackinthebox Wrote:  And who do you think is more likely to report being the victim of domestic violence? A man or a woman? Who is more likely to be ignored by police when they say they are being abused? The man or the woman?

But that is beside the point I was illustrating to you anyway.

If more men than women are victims, then self-defense is bull.

"when life gives you lemons..throw them at someone"...Grumpy Cat good.png
05-14-2013, 02:23 AM #54
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oh good grief i can just see a five foot 100 lb women beating up a 6 foot two hundred pound male lmao.gif

"when life gives you lemons..throw them at someone"...Grumpy Cat good.png
05-14-2013, 02:37 AM #55
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A neighbor of mine, a Philippina married to a Chrtistian was treated pretty badly. She often had breaks, sprains, bruises, blamed it all on her own clumsiness. She never would accuse her christian husband. She left him last October. She's the one whp taught me the quote

"When you point your finger at someone there's three pointing back at you."

This article is just sensationalist garbage designd to enrage and I see it has. Doesn't mean Muslims don't beat their wives. Doesn't mean Christians don't either.
05-14-2013, 02:40 AM #56
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it caught my eye shadow because i remembered the pakastani women i knew who had an arranged marriage ..she was so afraid

"when life gives you lemons..throw them at someone"...Grumpy Cat good.png
05-14-2013, 02:58 AM #57
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Sadly it isn't religion specific, but this article is published specifically to heighten Islamophobia as so many are. If Americans ever realized Muslims are just as they are, the wars might stop, can't have that, must keep up the fear mongering and hatred sad2.gif

A man hit me once, I put him in the hospital coffeetime.gif
05-14-2013, 03:12 AM #58
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and it works that way on the otherside articles to stir up hate against christians.. i have arab christian friends and they will tell you the hateful crap that is printed about them everyday in other countries and how they are persucuted both sides stir the pot dunno.gif

"when life gives you lemons..throw them at someone"...Grumpy Cat good.png
05-14-2013, 03:39 AM #59
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(05-14-2013, 02:23 AM)j browsing Wrote:  oh good grief i can just see a five foot 100 lb women beating up a 6 foot two hundred pound male lmao.gif


It's not funny. Not even a little bit.
05-14-2013, 03:42 AM #60
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Even crap like honor killings is not exclusive to Muslims. Sicilians and Corsicans will do that crap. I went to school with a girl from Albania, non religious family, who was killed by her brothers because she was flirtatious with boys at school.



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